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| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 20:22 #35674 | |
clive
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A question from a non-SimSig friend. How many examples of stations can you find (whether mainline, metro, or tram) where: * there are two separate routes serving the station, each with their own tracks; * the four tracks are all parallel; * the tracks are on two different levels with the tracks effectively above each other; * each level has one track from each route; * there is level interchange between the tracks on the same level. The only example in London I know of is Baker Street (Jubilee and Bakerloo lines), though "parallel" is perhaps stretching it a bit. But are there examples from elsewhere in the world? Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 20:28 #35675 | |
Tempest Malice
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I believe from memory that Highbury and Islington station might be like this between the victoria line and the morgate branch from finsbury park but i might be wrong
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| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 20:33 #35676 | |
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clive
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No, they're parallel to each other on the same level. The same is true for all the Victoria Line interchanges that look like that.
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| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 20:37 #35678 | |
Peter Bennet
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Camden Town? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 21:15 #35682 | |
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Underwood
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Or Canning Town (I think) could be another, the DLR line is parallel with the Jubilee line by being directly above it.
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| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 21:37 #35684 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:Camden Town?On reflection I think it's that pairs that are above each other. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 17/09/2012 at 23:06 #35685 | |
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pbinnersley
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There are a few stations that meet this criteria:- - T-Centraal (Green and Red Lines) on the Stockholm Tunnelbahn - Plarrer (lines U1 and U2/3) on the Nuremburg U-Bahn. - Siam station on the Bangkok skytrain. - Yau Tong and Tim Keng Leng stations on the Hong Kong MTR I suspect that stations like this are quite unusual as it would require both lines to be build simultaneously (or at least planned simultaneously). Regards, Peter. Last edited: 17/09/2012 at 23:06 by pbinnersley Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 16:03 #35691 | |
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guidomcc
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Raffles City and City Hall, on the East-West and North-South lines on the Singapore MRT
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| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 16:52 #35692 | |
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clive
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Camden Town doesn't meet the "parallel" test, but apart from that it would fit.
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| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 16:53 #35693 | |
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clive
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Canning Town doesn't count because the lines aren't split between the two levels - each line is entirely on one level (ignoring the new platforms on the Stratford International branch).
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| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 16:58 #35694 | |
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clive
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" said:There are a few stations that meet this criteria:-Thanks. Quote: I found these this morning, together with five (!) other stations on the MTR. Quote: Not necessarily - the arrangment could have been changed later. Baker Street only became like that 40 years after the original layout was built. Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 19:28 #35696 | |
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Jan
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Nollendorfplatz (U1 and U4) in Berlin.
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 20:15 #35697 | |
GeoffM
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7th Ave on the New York Subway, on the E and B/D lines. The only question is how you determine the "interchange on the level" aspect - at either end are flying triangular junctions (or diving perhaps, since they're underground) linking the various bits together. Also Queensboro Plaza on the N/Q and 7 lines. Similar question for the interchange though - on the upper level only. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 21:20 #35698 | |
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benstafford
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Brussells Midi. Metro and Tram work in this way. See this map
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| Interchange puzzle 18/09/2012 at 23:23 #35702 | |
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meeko
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Lionel-Groulx on the Montreal Metro.
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| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 05:01 #35704 | |
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alvinhochun
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If I've understand correctly, there are " said: Quote:Actually that is Tiu Keng Leng. To be noted that Tiu Keng Leng is a terminus of the Kwun Tong Line so one platform is drop-off only.I found these this morning, together with five (!) other stations on the MTR, Last edited: 19/09/2012 at 05:05 by alvinhochun Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 13:49 #35716 | |
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clive
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" said:7th Ave on the New York Subway, on the E and B/D lines. The only question is how you determine the "interchange on the level" aspect - at either end are flying triangular junctions (or diving perhaps, since they're underground) linking the various bits together.Some confusion here: I was referring to passenger interchange (i.e. it should be cross-platform or otherwise on the level), not track connections. Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 15:24 #35717 | |
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GeoffM
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" said:" said:In that case I think there is another that I rejected on that basis - but I ought to do some work instead of find it again!7th Ave on the New York Subway, on the E and B/D lines. The only question is how you determine the "interchange on the level" aspect - at either end are flying triangular junctions (or diving perhaps, since they're underground) linking the various bits together.Some confusion here: I was referring to passenger interchange (i.e. it should be cross-platform or otherwise on the level), not track connections. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 16:47 #35722 | |
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Copping
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Could Clapham Junction be one? Technically theres not really a connection at the station between Southern services and South West Trains services.
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| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 19:04 #35724 | |
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Josie
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" said:Could Clapham Junction be one? Technically theres not really a connection at the station between Southern services and South West Trains services.Satisfies the first two conditions but not the other three. Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 19:08 #35726 | |
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Sacro
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" said:" said:* the tracks are on two different levels with the tracks effectively above each other;Could Clapham Junction be one? Technically theres not really a connection at the station between Southern services and South West Trains services.Satisfies the first two conditions but not the other three. Well the South London line dives underneath to go North, and the line into Victoria goes over the top. * there is level interchange between the tracks on the same level. This seems reasonable, bit curved but fairly level. Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 19:39 #35727 | |
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Josie
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" said:* the tracks are on two different levels with the tracks effectively above each other;All the platforms are on the same level; nothing is effectively on top of anything else. " said: * there is level interchange between the tracks on the same level.But there's no level interchange between different routes, you have to go up to the bridge or down to the subway. Log in to reply |
| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 19:58 #35729 | |
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Sacro
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You can do a level change from a train to Victoria to a train from Waterloo, or a train from Victoria to a train going down onto the South London line.
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| Interchange puzzle 19/09/2012 at 20:09 #35730 | |
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Josie
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" said:You can do a level change from a train to Victoria to a train from Waterloo, or a train from Victoria to a train going down onto the South London line.For the ones that happen to use opposite sides of the same island, yes. But that's not the question. The question asks for two routes, each with a track on an upper level and a lower level. If you also could do a level change between trains from Victoria and trains to Waterloo, and that level was above or below the platforms where you can change between trains to Victoria and trains from Waterloo, it would work. Log in to reply |
