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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 00:12 #39884
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The problem doesn't seem to have surfaced again.
I am now confused. From your original report, it can't have not "surfaced again". Your report stated that you had a shunt pilot move that had disappeared; this train is part of a long sequence of related moves so if that move had disappeared the whole of the rest of the TT would have had problems. As a general point and In order to save lots of wasted time by developers and testers, it would be very much appreciated if people reporting problems and expecting help would also respond to the questions and suggestions posed in answer to their initial report. In particular, it would help in this case if you could actually explain whether the station pilot shunt move had really disappeared and how you resolved things.

I'm sorry for being a bit cranky, but I have spent about 10 hours in the past fortnight following up bugs reported on the Forum for which there is no other supporting evidence and no feedback from the original poster after the original posting. If people aren't prepared to help when follow-up questions or suggestions are offered, then ultimately other people will stop helping which is not good for anyone.

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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 01:41 #39885
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I think it was attributed to the move being out of sequence. I've found that "Set current/next location" usually sorts the problem out.
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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 08:28 #39886
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Thanks. That was the only place I didn't look.
Aubrey

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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 09:08 #39887
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Especially when points failure and track circuit failures completely block Upperby Yard and south end of carlisle!

You're a brave man playing that timetable with failures :evil: I don't think I'd risk it. It's bad enough trying to keep everything moving at the right place at the right time.

There was a few times I needed to pause and breathe and could only use 1:1 with all the phone calls coming in from trains I needed to talk past signal failures. As you say its all about regulation and praying. The number of times I thought a slow freight will just get to the next loop in time to let a class 1 pass, only for the train in front to cause a TCF blocking the loop; cue lots of unhappy class 1 drivers on the way to Carnforth! I think I achieved around 47% on a Wednesday with a max of two failures occuring throughout the day. And yes when one was fixed I usually had about 15 min respite before somethng else replaced it!

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To be frank although it is a challenging timetable I'm only about 95% happy with it. I'm still convinced there's 5% of trains still missing from the timetable & unless we get the proper info for them what you've got now is about as good as it is going to get.
You should be immensely proud of your TTs Pascal, they are fantastic. Although I am planning more in the pipeline depending if certain things are released; having only written one TT myself which is from the modern era (due to what material I can source) with more or less no freight I can only have lots of admiration for you and all your testers on how much work has gone into to it to make it run so smoothly. All aided by a brilliant Carlisle sim by Tom.

Gareth

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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 10:36 #39888
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You should be immensely proud of your TTs Pascal, they are fantastic. Although I am planning more in the pipeline depending if certain things are released; having only written one TT myself which is from the modern era (due to what material I can source) with more or less no freight I can only have lots of admiration for you and all your testers on how much work has gone into to it to make it run so smoothly. All aided by a brilliant Carlisle sim by Tom.

Thanks you for your comments Gareth. I've been collecting WTTs Trip Notices, freight train loads books, Sectional Appendixes etc etc for the very purpose of writing timetables for sims like this & also assisting developers with their need for material dating back years which today is harder to find. When I think about all the stuff I threw out before I started collecting it & what other people have thrown out across my time on the railways send a shiver down my spine. Hind-sight is a brilliant thing if you can see into the future. I wish you all the luck in the world in your quest to produce timetables. As for Carlisle 79-80 timetable, this was done because I own an Arrival & Departure book which was originally issued to Mr. W.J. Taylor, whom Tom told me he created the Carlisle sim in his memory as he was the signaler on 'Centre' panel the nigh the freightliner ran away on the Goods Lines & were it not for his actions the subsequent derailment would have been far worse in the sense of the damage it created. Also in this book I've got are all the Penmanshield diversions written in biro obviously by him, so they too were added. As for this timetable all I can say is that famous old quote that this timetable was always there once Tom had created this superb sim, I along with a few other just chipped away at the rough edges.
In view of your issue with freight & creating timetables Joe(jc92) has created an Excel document & I have added locos, DMUs(1st & 2nd generation), EMUs(AC & DC), Track Machines, coaching stock(incl. Non Passenger Carrying Coaching Stocking) & freight wagons(air & vacuum), plus an SLU chart which shows SLUs & metres. So all you will need to do is enter the number of the type of loco used to pull the train e.g. '1' & then the number of wagons or coaches of any of the types in the list & it will automatically calculate the total length of the train & also the maximum speed of the train. So there won't be any excuse for timetable writers to have the wrong train lengths, which is something I find tends to spoil alot of the timetables people have created. Especially when you consider they go to alot of trouble working out the right stock or wagons on a service, but then get the length wrong. I've suggested to Joe that when it is complete & that should be any time soon, when he re-appears after the festive break to upload it to the 'downloads' section for anyone to download. I just got to add a few more freight wagons to it.

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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 13:14 #39898
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Whenever the latest version is ready pascal, send it across to me, ill get it working and upload it.

Joe

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Carlisle 31/12/2012 at 15:53 #39903
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In view of your issue with freight & creating timetables Joe(jc92) has created an Excel document & I have added locos, DMUs(1st & 2nd generation), EMUs(AC & DC), Track Nachines, coaching stock(incl. Non Passenger Carrying Coaching Stocking) & freight wagons(air & vacuum), plus an SLU chart which shows SLUs & metres. So all you will need to do is enter the number of the type of loco used to pull the train e.g. '1' & then the number of wagons or coaches of any of the types in the list & it will automatically calculate the total length of the train & also the maximum speed of the train. So there won't be any excuse for timetable writers to have the wrong train lengths, which is something I find tends to spoil alot of the timetables people have created. Especially when you consider they go to alot of trouble working out the right stock or wagons on a service, but then get the length wrong. I've suggested to Joe that when it is complete & that should be any time soon, when he re-appears after the festive break to upload it to the 'downloads' section for anyone to download. I just got to add a few more freight wagons to it.
That sounds great Pascal and Joe and I can see it being very useful in the future for myself and others. At the moment I've only written a TT for Brighton which is why I've had little frieght to deal with in them because well there isn't much these days

Gareth

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