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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality?

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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 06/02/2013 at 03:52 #41213
DonRiver
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I really like the Llangollen sim, it's a nice manageable railway. In complexity it reminds me of the North Yorks Moors Railway where I was a TTI - about ten years ago - I live in Australia now.

What does the Llangollen Railway do with all the sidings? Are they mostly used on days when there are no public trains? I'd quite like to make a timetable where stock is shuffled through those sidings; it would be nice to master all those ground-frames.

(named for the one in Tasmania, not in Russia)
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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 06/02/2013 at 06:24 #41217
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Knowing preserved railways, "trying to store all that stock they once bought but rarely use" - engineers wagons, goods wagons, spare coaches, and unrefurbished "anything".

You could try doing the (legendary?) SVR Bewdley shunt - the story goes that the entire day was spent shunting every siding in the station, only for it all to be back in exactly the same place by the end of the day!

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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 06/02/2013 at 12:09 #41231
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" said:
Knowing preserved railways, "trying to store all that stock they once bought but rarely use" - engineers wagons, goods wagons, spare coaches, and unrefurbished "anything".

You could try doing the (legendary?) SVR Bewdley shunt - the story goes that the entire day was spent shunting every siding in the station, only for it all to be back in exactly the same place by the end of the day!

Interesting that the Bewdley shunt is still mentioned. The version I heard named the shunter as well. But it must have happened at least 25 years ago now!

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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 06/02/2013 at 14:56 #41245
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" said:
I really like the Llangollen sim, it's a nice manageable railway. In complexity it reminds me of the North Yorks Moors Railway where I was a TTI - about ten years ago - I live in Australia now.

What does the Llangollen Railway do with all the sidings? Are they mostly used on days when there are no public trains? I'd quite like to make a timetable where stock is shuffled through those sidings; it would be nice to master all those ground-frames.
I'll try and explain what we use them all for, working left to right across the sim.

Llangollen Fruit Dock (Labelled as OOU on the sim)

Is used to store the exhibition coach, as well as a couple of box vans used for storage. At Christmas time the exhibition coach is swapped for the grotto coach.

Loco Shed

Is split into eight sidings. One siding is filled with camping coaches for use by volunteers, as well as one of the railways cranes.

The four shed roads, which include the pit, are used for storing the running fleet of steam locomotives, as well as the new build projects such as the Unknown Warrior, and Betton Grange.

The other three roads are used as a mixture of storage for various bits and pieces, plus the railways fleet of diesel locomotives.

River Siding

Is mainly used to store rakes of MK1 coaches. On days where we have more than one loco hauled rake in use the second is almost always taken from here, the other rake being berthed in one of the Llangollen platforms overnight.

Pentrefelin Yard

Split into seven sidings. The yard is used to store most of the railways active coaching stock fleet, as well as the DMU fleet, and various pieces of freight stock including the demonstration freight rake.

The shed which encompasses three of the roads is used for a mixture of maintenance and long term restoration projects.

Two of the railways shunters are permanently based here. (Currently Davy and the 02)

Deeside Head Shunt

Has been used for a variety of things since I started at the railway three years ago. At the moment to hold two out of use air braked coaches..

It's been previously used to store the "Thomas wagons", and whilst Deeside Loop was relaid last summer was home to a rake of engineers wagons.

Glyn Sidings

A variety of rolling stock is stored here, mostly items waiting to be restored, or wagons which aren't needed for most of the year. It's also got the former footbridge from Glyn station sat in the up siding at the moment.

A few years ago the railways DMU fleet was based here, back when we only had three two car sets.

Carrog Yard

Used to hold two shop coaches, as well as some other assorted rolling stock, the water tanker used to water the narrow guage locos at Steel Steam and Stars 3 was based here. I've also parked the class 104 DMU in here during a gala after a slight oversight in the time table.

Carrog Engineers

It's been a while since I looked at what exactly was being kept here. (In a normal day I don't go past Carrog platforms), but has been used to store wagons used as part of the work to extend the line towards Corwen.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 06/02/2013 at 15:34 #41248
Danny252
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" said:
" said:
Knowing preserved railways, "trying to store all that stock they once bought but rarely use" - engineers wagons, goods wagons, spare coaches, and unrefurbished "anything".

You could try doing the (legendary?) SVR Bewdley shunt - the story goes that the entire day was spent shunting every siding in the station, only for it all to be back in exactly the same place by the end of the day!

Interesting that the Bewdley shunt is still mentioned. The version I heard named the shunter as well. But it must have happened at least 25 years ago now!
Those chatting about it certainly knew who the shunter was - I shall have to enquire some time!

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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 07/02/2013 at 10:27 #41279
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" said:
" said:
Knowing preserved railways, "trying to store all that stock they once bought but rarely use" - engineers wagons, goods wagons, spare coaches, and unrefurbished "anything".

You could try doing the (legendary?) SVR Bewdley shunt - the story goes that the entire day was spent shunting every siding in the station, only for it all to be back in exactly the same place by the end of the day!

Interesting that the Bewdley shunt is still mentioned. The version I heard named the shunter as well. But it must have happened at least 25 years ago now!
Those chatting about it certainly knew who the shunter was - I shall have to enquire some time!

I wouldn't want it broadcast on an open forum but I'd love to know by PM what name is being cited... see if it's changed much in the telling.

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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 08/02/2013 at 05:57 #41301
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Where do they store all the clean yellow flags?
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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 08/02/2013 at 09:46 #41304
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" said:
Knowing preserved railways, "trying to store all that stock they once bought but rarely use" - engineers wagons, goods wagons, spare coaches, and unrefurbished "anything".

You could try doing the (legendary?) SVR Bewdley shunt - the story goes that the entire day was spent shunting every siding in the station, only for it all to be back in exactly the same place by the end of the day!
I remember spending half a day just to extract one wagon from the back of the Down Yard at Bewdley for the old 1940s fire train. The layout of that yard along with the quantity of stock in there these days tends to mean it often takes a long time to move a single wagon if it is at the back.

I also know of at least two occasions where the Carriage Shed at Kidderminster was more-or-less totally rearranged on a Saturday only for the Shunter on the Sunday to be told to put it all back where it started. I think the SVR has reduced certain levels of shunting now from when I used to go there.

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What are all the sidings and yards used for in reality? 08/02/2013 at 11:30 #41306
Danny252
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" said:
" said:
Knowing preserved railways, "trying to store all that stock they once bought but rarely use" - engineers wagons, goods wagons, spare coaches, and unrefurbished "anything".

You could try doing the (legendary?) SVR Bewdley shunt - the story goes that the entire day was spent shunting every siding in the station, only for it all to be back in exactly the same place by the end of the day!
I remember spending half a day just to extract one wagon from the back of the Down Yard at Bewdley for the old 1940s fire train. The layout of that yard along with the quantity of stock in there these days tends to mean it often takes a long time to move a single wagon if it is at the back.

I also know of at least two occasions where the Carriage Shed at Kidderminster was more-or-less totally rearranged on a Saturday only for the Shunter on the Sunday to be told to put it all back where it started. I think the SVR has reduced certain levels of shunting now from when I used to go there.
I've watched Bridgnorth MPD do the same - everything in the siding with Taw Valley, short of the engine itself, was pulled out and stuffed into whatever space they could find (between engines coming in for coal and water and whatever was already in the yard), just so they could get to some stores coach right down the back - and yep, everything went back in after, although I think the coach was left slightly closer to the front...

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