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| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 23/03/2013 at 18:33 #42580 | |
ajax103
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I am running the 1980 timetable and cannot get these two trains to couple up, they are now both in the right platform which is Platform 1 but they just refuse to couple up - help please! Also have problems with 0A04-1 and 1A04 in same platform refusing to couple up - for some unknown reason 0A04-1 AND 0T08-9 are classed as EMUs, the former cannot be a EMU as its a loco 
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| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 23/03/2013 at 19:19 #42583 | |
BarryM
2158 posts |
" said:I am running the 1980 timetable for some unknown reason 0A04-1 AND 0T08-9 are classed as EMUs, the former cannot be a EMU as its a loco :/The majority of locomotives in this sim are electric type with a SPEED class of an EMU. The Train Category defines the type of vehicle. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 23/03/2013 at 19:35 #42584 | |
jc92
3690 posts |
as regards the joining, i cannot explain the issue, as it did not crop up in testing. regarding the category- SimSig has a nasty habit of remembering the last set of characteristics entered when setting up a train type. it should be fixable by unticking the box in the train type window and saving the master copy, although it will have little effect on the game. I shall amend this for a future release. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 24/03/2013 at 02:01 #42597 | |
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BarryM
2158 posts |
" said:as regards the joining, i cannot explain the issue, as it did not crop up in testing. regarding the category- SimSig has a nasty habit of remembering the last set of characteristics entered when setting up a train type. it should be fixable by unticking the box in the train type window and saving the master copy, although it will have little effect on the game.Joe, To fix the joining problem, in activities for 1A04 "DropR 5S04" should read "DropF 5S04". Remember the front of 1A04 is at the buffer stops. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 24/03/2013 at 07:54 #42601 | |
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ajax103
1120 posts |
" said:" said:I will try this, I'm sure there is more then one train affected by this so will just go back go a earlier save and use this fix.as regards the joining, i cannot explain the issue, as it did not crop up in testing. regarding the category- SimSig has a nasty habit of remembering the last set of characteristics entered when setting up a train type. it should be fixable by unticking the box in the train type window and saving the master copy, although it will have little effect on the game.Joe, Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 24/03/2013 at 09:54 #42603 | |
postal
5265 posts |
" said:Joe,Barry I think you have missed what is happening with 1S04. The train arrives into P1 and then splits as follows: Loco 0A04 drops off the front. Shown as DEF 0A04 in the 1S04 TT. Sleepers are uncoupled at the rear. Shown as DCR 5S04 in the 1S04 TT.. 0T08-9 has been shunting earlier sleeper sections into P15 and now collects the 5S04 sleeper section from 1A04 from the country end of P1 (i.e. the rear end of the train on arrival) and takes that to P15 as well. That is why the sleepers show as DCR not DCF. 0A04-1 then drops onto the day coaches from 1A04 which still remain in P1 and takes them off to Camden Carriage Sidings. Finally, 0A04 (the incoming train engine from 1A04) comes out of P1 and goes off to its next working. All of these sleeper moves are to allow the passengers to stay in their berths until a reasonable time in the morning rather than decanting them into the Euston Road at stupid-o'clock. The joins and splits as configured in the TT are the exact moves required to make things work and no editing is required. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 24/03/2013 at 10:09 #42604 | |
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postal
5265 posts |
" said:I am running the 1980 timetable and cannot get these two trains to couple up, they are now both in the right platform which is Platform 1 but they just refuse to couple up - help please!Most problems with locos/units refusing to couple arise because things have happened in an order the TT did not expect, or there has been some operational incident that has caused things to be in places the TT similarly did not expect. Taking the 2 cases separately: 1) All of the activities in the TT for 1A04 have to be completed in sequence (i.e. 0A04 unhooked at the front, 5S04 detached at the rear, 0T08-9 joined to 5S04 and the section removed to P15 and 0A04-1 joining). If anything has not completed, subsequent activities will not take place. Is there anything out standing in that list of activities? 2) If you have had to carry out any manoeuvre the TT did not expect, the locations may not have stepped correctly. If you look in F2, it will give the locations of 5S04 and 0T08-9 (and then 5A04 and 0A04-1). Do they all show as P1? Even if they all show in the right place on F2 you may need to massage the TT. To do this, click on the TDs for 5S04 and 0T08-9 (and then 5A04 and 0A04-1), they should each have the entry for Euston P1 in bold to indicate the current location. If either loco or ECS is not showing current location as Euston P1, the join will not take place. You can correct this by going into F2, right clicking on the relevant section (loco or ECS), selecting Edit Timetable, highlighting the Euston P1 row and clicking on the Current/Next Location button. While there are bound to be errors in something as complex as this manually written TT, I am confident that the shunt moves for 1A04 are absolutely correct as written. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: BarryM |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 24/03/2013 at 11:57 #42609 | |
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BarryM
2158 posts |
John, You are quite correct. I stuffed up in not bringing 5S04's moves into the equation. Thanks for the correction. Dopey! Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 25/03/2013 at 06:17 #42653 | |
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ajax103
1120 posts |
That might be the case but I did try doing that with no luck however when I tried doing what BarryM said, it worked fine with no hiccups. Not sure by though.... Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 25/03/2013 at 09:47 #42659 | |
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postal
5265 posts |
I don't know how it worked with no hiccoughs because making 5S04 DCF means that you have the day coaches to form 5A04 blocking in the sleepers (unless you were running late and the 0A04-1 appeared before you had 0T08-9 in place to pick up the sleepers). If you DCF 5S04, then put 0T08-9 into the platform, it can't pick up 5S04 because 5A04 is in the way. Is that possibly what happened? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 25/03/2013 at 12:37 #42668 | |
clive
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" said:Why? The speed classes correspond to the classes you see on trackside signs. If a speed sign says 50/EMU70, a driver of a class 91 doing 65 is likely to meet a Form 1 coming the other way. Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 26/03/2013 at 00:24 #42722 | |
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Aurora
183 posts |
" said:I am running the 1980 timetable and cannot get these two trains to couple up, they are now both in the right platform which is Platform 1 but they just refuse to couple up - help please! Have you tried dinner and some music? Nil. Log in to reply |
| 0T08-9 and 5S04 refusing to couple up 26/03/2013 at 02:41 #42724 | |
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BarryM
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" said:" said:I was only referring to the Speed Classes for Light Locomotives as defined in the Train Characteristics in the selected timetable. Am I wrong Clive?Why? The speed classes correspond to the classes you see on trackside signs. If a speed sign says 50/EMU70, a driver of a class 91 doing 65 is likely to meet a Form 1 coming the other way. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |