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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 14/02/2014 at 17:21 #55563 | |
Trainfan344
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Hello, every now and then I accidentally collar a signal which completely mucks up my timetables,anyone know how to uncollar a signal, and what does it even mean?
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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 14/02/2014 at 17:24 #55564 | |
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GW43125
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A signal collar is used to remind a signaller not to set a route for whatever reason, be it a delay, possession or whatever. Signal collars can be applied by pressing reminder then left click, and can be removed by pressing reminder then right click. Hope this helps. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Trainfan344 |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 14/02/2014 at 17:25 #55565 | |
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TimTamToe
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" said:Hello, every now and then I accidentally collar a signal which completely mucks up my timetables,anyone know how to uncollar a signal, and what does it even mean?right click on the signal and deselect whichever reminder you put on to it. Collaring a signal prevents a route being set from that signal. For more details look at the wiki (link below) http://www.SimSig.co.uk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=usertrack:glossary:collar&s Gareth Last edited: 14/02/2014 at 17:26 by TimTamToe Log in to reply |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 14/02/2014 at 19:31 #55576 | |
Temple Meads
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" said:" said:Only if (like me) you haven't got the 'right click cancels route' option enabled in F3Hello, every now and then I accidentally collar a signal which completely mucks up my timetables,anyone know how to uncollar a signal, and what does it even mean?right click on the signal and deselect whichever reminder you put on to it. 
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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 15/02/2014 at 09:07 #55595 | |
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Hawk777
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… in which case, for loader simulations at least, you can still shift-right-click to get the context menu (thanks much to whoever coded that up)!
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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 15/02/2014 at 09:58 #55597 | |
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fsxfaulder
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" said:… in which case, for loader simulations at least, you can still shift-right-click to get the context menu (thanks much to whoever coded that up)!So if you have right click cancels route turned off does shift + right click cancel a route? I know I've read it in the forum before... Log in to reply |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 15/02/2014 at 11:01 #55601 | |
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Jan
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Correct.
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: fsxfaulder |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 15/02/2014 at 18:04 #55623 | |
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kbarber
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" said:Hello, every now and then I accidentally collar a signal which completely mucks up my timetables,anyone know how to uncollar a signal, and what does it even mean? The word, as for so many bits of railway jargon, comes from old fashioned mechanical days. In a mechanical box, if you wanted to prevent a lever being worked for any reason, there was a device called a lever collar. In most cases it was rectangular, about 1.5 - 2cm thick (sometimes cast iron with a nice waist shape between lever hole and the back); it had a hole large enough to be dropped easily over the lever head and at the back was a rebate that dropped over the catch handle. Usually it was painted red and most often would have the word 'stop' cast or engraved on the front. Dropping it over the lever, the rebate would drop over the catch handle and it would then be impossible to pull the catch handle up to allow the lever to be moved. There was an Eastern Region variant that used a piece of steel plate; the front was extended some way and bent so there was a large enough area to paint 'stop' on. The Great Western was different (as always) and used a circular casting with a rim and a boss; the hole was cast in the boss and the collar would sit between lever and catch handle when dropped over the lever head. (It also, I am reliably informed, made a perfect egg cup for the signalman's breakfast.) The LNWR, with its stirrup frames, couldn't use conventional collars so their collar was just an oval loop of steel rod that was slipped over the lever head and under the catch handle; surprisingly it was completely effective in preventing the catch handle being pressed down. Quite how the Great Central did it with their 'jug handle' frames I don't know. The final variant was an Eastern Region design for levers that were to be 'blocked to electric trains'; the rebate was extended all the way to the lever hole and a spring loaded plate hinged to drop into it. The plate could be pulled up and the lever worked without removing the collar, but of course it was a very effective reminder that the traction needed to be checked. For panel boxes a small circular cover would be used that covered the switch or button; for vertical panels they would be magnetic. There were a few places where a plastic moulding was provided with a slot that allowed them to be slid on to the button then slid down to hold it securely - in this case the button could be pulled up at any time without removing the collar. Again there was an Eastern Region 'blocked to electric trains' variant, a cover with a hinged top. I'm not quite certain but I don't think the other regions ever went in for special BTET collars. All these were referred to as 'reminder appliances' in the rule book. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: maxand |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 23/02/2014 at 16:50 #56081 | |
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DanC
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Further to this, I actually always wondered (But never asked) what the difference between a general reminder (Collar) and a traction isolation reminder (Collar) is? Presumably the traction one is to remind that, for example, the 3rd rail on a section of track has been turned off? Or am I completely off the plot?...
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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 23/02/2014 at 17:29 #56088 | |
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JamesN
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" said:Further to this, I actually always wondered (But never asked) what the difference between a general reminder (Collar) and a traction isolation reminder (Collar) is? Presumably the traction one is to remind that, for example, the 3rd rail on a section of track has been turned off? Or am I completely off the plot?...General Reminder (Blue) - Collar/Reminder for General purposes Isolation Reminder (Pink) - Collar/Reminder for Traction Isolation So yes, you are indeed correct! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DanC |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 23/02/2014 at 17:59 #56091 | |
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DanC
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" said:" said:Tis one of those ones I've always assumed the difference (and assumed I was correct) but never asked someone to clarify...ThanksFurther to this, I actually always wondered (But never asked) what the difference between a general reminder (Collar) and a traction isolation reminder (Collar) is? Presumably the traction one is to remind that, for example, the 3rd rail on a section of track has been turned off? Or am I completely off the plot?...General Reminder (Blue) - Collar/Reminder for General purposes 
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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 24/02/2014 at 09:40 #56125 | |
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pilotman
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Generally a note would be made in the occurrence book stating the reason for collaring the signal(s). Thus if the signalman is relieved and the relief is not briefed the circumstances can be confirmed. (Also on opening a box with levers collared).
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| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 24/02/2014 at 21:18 #56160 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:Further to this, I actually always wondered (But never asked) what the difference between a general reminder (Collar) and a traction isolation reminder (Collar) is? Presumably the traction one is to remind that, for example, the 3rd rail on a section of track has been turned off? Or am I completely off the plot?... " said: General Reminder (Blue) - Collar/Reminder for General purposesPersonally, as I have never ever had a traction-related reason to use (apply) the Traction Isolation Collar/Reminder, I have instead used that for train-related reminders - things like reminding myself to hold back an early running [freight] train, or to remind myself that a passenger train is delayed at a station, etc., etc. T = Traction or Train. B) Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Collaring a signal, how to undo? 24/02/2014 at 21:37 #56162 | |
KymriskaDraken
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" said:" said:I use the pink reminders when I am doing the Kings Cross steam TT to remind me that the train doesn't have an engine attached.Further to this, I actually always wondered (But never asked) what the difference between a general reminder (Collar) and a traction isolation reminder (Collar) is? Presumably the traction one is to remind that, for example, the 3rd rail on a section of track has been turned off? Or am I completely off the plot?...General Reminder (Blue) - Collar/Reminder for General purposes Log in to reply |