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| autumn 2014 TT 26/12/2014 at 17:24 #67064 | |
rodney30
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Hi there I am hoping someone can help. When I load Kings Cross (latest version of loader and sim) with this TT i get an error message. The error message says SwingSet not all swingable. Rodney 30 Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 26/12/2014 at 17:37 #67065 | |
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tjfrancis
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I also got this as well I can upload a screen shot in PDF if needed
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| autumn 2014 TT 26/12/2014 at 17:51 #67066 | |
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officer dibble
409 posts |
rodney30, This issue came up during the testing of the TT & doesn't affect the t/t in any way. I am reliably informed it is something to do with a ground frame within the sim. Click OK to clear the message & the t/t will behave as one would expect it to. Hope you are enjoying it? :cheer: When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply The following user said thank you: rodney30 |
| autumn 2014 TT 26/12/2014 at 18:02 #67067 | |
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rodney30
165 posts |
yes a very busy TT with a few platform clashes thrown in. thanks to the people involved in gathering the data needed and testing it Rodney 30 Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 27/12/2014 at 17:04 #67111 | |
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clive
2789 posts |
" said:Please see this thread. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 27/12/2014 at 17:05 #67112 | |
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clive
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" said:Um, who told you that? Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 27/12/2014 at 20:35 #67129 | |
BarryM
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It appears that the error is caused by the way seeds are loaded into this sim. Could points 2101 at Finsbury be causing this error? Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 27/12/2014 at 20:54 by BarryM Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 27/12/2014 at 22:28 #67133 | |
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BarryM
2158 posts |
I found the cause. Not the points 2101 but seeded train 4E65-1 at Palmers Green S837. I moved this seed to S831 and the timetable loaded correctly. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 27/12/2014 at 22:40 by BarryM Reason: added info Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 21:24 #68343 | |
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tjfrancis
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sorry about the bump but 1e03 that goes into p0 is a hst and hst are not allowed to go into platform 0 due to Quote: To prevent exhaust fumes from entering the ventilation system, no diesel trains are permitted to use this platform. it from the kings cross weki page I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:07 #68344 | |
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leigh
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" said:sorry about the bump but 1e03 that goes into p0 is a hst and hst are not allowed to go into platform 0 due to1E03 is shown in the Network Rail WTT has being timetabled into platform 0. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:22 #68345 | |
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Sacro
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" said:sorry about the bump but 1e03 that goes into p0 is a hst and hst are not allowed to go into platform 0 due toIt's actually from the King's Cross Wikipedia page, and is missing half the sentence from the Sectional Appendix. It's due to the low roof and is permitted in an emergency, or if it's a rescue loco, or it's an authorized move. Also the SA only makes note of the low roof, nothing to do with any 'ventilation system'. Also Network Rail aren't known for their knowledge of the Sectional Appendix, nor the location of pointwork/junctions when writing timetables. Last edited: 24/01/2015 at 22:23 by Sacro Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:22 #68346 | |
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tjfrancis
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Then is it a class 91 then for 1s03
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| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:24 #68347 | |
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Sacro
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" said:Then is it a class 91 then for 1s03No, that's a Leeds to Aberdeen service, it'd have to coast a fair way at each end. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:28 #68348 | |
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tjfrancis
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Well why is it platform for 0 if no hst can go into it because of the snoke out of the engine then platform 1 all be better
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| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:31 #68349 | |
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Sacro
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" said:Well why is it platform for 0 if no hst can go into it because of the snoke out of the engine then platform 1 all be betterBecause that's what Network Rail put. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:37 #68350 | |
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GW43125
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Tony, Having personally been allowed to signal on KX panel, I can confirm there is only one train in the late evening prohibited from using Platform 0, which is a 91+DVT, it's due to sighting issues apparently. If NR put P0, it goes into P0. End of story. It also actually goes into P0, so it's not a big problem, despite the 'no diesel beyond this point'. I think it's mainly to prevent it happening a lot, so scheduled into O0=fine, platform changing an HST to P0=not fine. Jamie. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:39 #68351 | |
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officer dibble
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I can confirm, whilst it is not ideal, HSTs are permitted to use Platform 0 at KGX as decpicted in this photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/55244915@N06/6302172868/in/photolist-aAUhqU-jBLevv-kMWvf8-osxDMg-oDLXYo-ajTXrQ-9fqqjH-9fas3R-8XTFqA-8XQAkr-8XTEfG-8XU15J-9ooptL-9ftx7o-9eiwGi-8Zc7QH-gREURL-a4jtBE-9e8gDj-8XQE3c-bokoGk-8yJEyG-j9jfte-nZdc2p-84CixY-aARzV6-j9iZtL-j9hCeK-8yJU2Y-8yFLG4-fABXZk-kMW6Hr-j9mHWj-j9jETh-gEi2nR-j9kxEh-j9kv1t-j9iTNh-j9k2Xv-aajDMH-8ZfbCJ-8yEhnX-nKghk3-osokGj-q8rM3J-ehtm2e-hp2gpe-osn9iC-dDtHMP-pbvpTo-gDSKSa :yikes When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:54 #68352 | |
Steamer
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The full instruction is: [quote="Sectional Appendix"]LN101 - KINGS CROSS TO SHAFTHOLME JN KINGS CROSS Prohibition of Diesel & Steam Services Entering Platform 0 Diesel and steam services are prohibited from entering platform 0 due to the low roof except in the following circumstances: • Under an emergency to unload passengers • Train rescue diesel locomotive - engine to be kept running for maximum of 5 minutes while in the exclusion zone • Authorised move by the signal box Diesel traction with formations of ‘5+2’ or more On approach to signal K296, (0km 0937m / 0m 1025yrds), if incorrectly routed into platform 0 come to a safe stop and advise the signaller of the error. The signaller will either re-route the train or give authority to proceed into platform 0. On entering platform 0, stop at the buffer stop and power down engines. Power-up engines 10 minutes before departure time, not before. Diesel traction with formations less than ‘5+2’ On approach to signal K296, (0km 0937m / 0m 1025yds), if incorrectly routed into platform 0 come to a safe stop and advise the signalman of the error. The signaller will either re-route the train or give authority to proceed into platform 0. On entering platform 0, stop short of the lower roof inside the station building and power down engines. Power-up engines 10 minutes before departure time, not before. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 24/01/2015 at 22:55 by Steamer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: tjfrancis |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 22:59 #68353 | |
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RainbowNines
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I'm regularly in and around KX (often on buses down the side of the station) and I've seen a HST in there quite a few times. I also thought they were barred from P0 (didn't know why) but they're definitely put there. In any case... RTT (which I know isn't necessarily accurate) suggests 1B81 from Lincoln used it yesterday, and the set formed 1S11 to Aberdeen. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 23:06 #68354 | |
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RainbowNines
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I had started a response but Steamer summed it up. I knew of the "ban" (thought it was something to do with the roof) and remember commenting to someone I was with when I saw a HST there. 1B81/1S11 supposedly (according to RTT) used it yesterday. I know RTT isn't necessarily accurate but there we are. Last edited: 24/01/2015 at 23:06 by RainbowNines Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 24/01/2015 at 23:29 #68355 | |
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Sacro
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" said:RTT (I think) updates the platform number according to the berth steps, so it should be accurate. Log in to reply |
| autumn 2014 TT 25/01/2015 at 10:06 #68360 | |
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dwelham313
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Hmm, I thought the restriction had been lifted - I seem to see HSTs in platfrom 0 on an almost daily basis!
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| autumn 2014 TT 25/01/2015 at 15:59 #68367 | |
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Stanyon
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as i understand it the restriction has been lifted for hsts, not sure that HT/GC can use it with 180s though
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| autumn 2014 TT 25/01/2015 at 16:35 #68370 | |
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GW43125
495 posts |
I think there is/was a 'no diesels past this point' sign under the canopy at P0. I'll have to check when I'm next there.
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