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Willesden 829/931 Location 10/07/2015 at 20:06 #74096
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In tonights game on Wembley Mainline, 1J84 was wrong routes at North Wembley Jn, Where he is meant to crossover from the fast lines to the slow, to stop at location Willesden 829/931. However the train did not phone up with a wrong route and proceded along the FL coming to a stop by signal 132 where he said he had arrived at Willesden 829/931.

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Sim Version 1.1
Loader Version 4.5.1
TT Wembley 15th Oct 2009 (0445 start) V4.1.0
Repeatable Yes

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I have also attached the Snapshot from before the Wrong Route, The Save Game of when it got reported, and a Test TT for you to use to repeat the bug

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Willesden 829/931 Location 14/07/2015 at 22:31 #74237
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It's definitely wrong but can also be right as if the line was blocked, that would be the only relieving point.

Years and years ago we had to do that. The driver had to be escorted through the possession to the train.

BUUUTTT, looking at that pic and the schedule in it, I don't understand how that train got onto the Up Fast if it came from Euston?? It looks like it's meant to reverse at WM829/931!!

Last edited: 14/07/2015 at 22:34 by Guts
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Willesden 829/931 Location 15/07/2015 at 02:35 #74238
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" said:
It's definitely wrong but can also be right
Gotta love answers like that :pinch:

But Guts has it right: we often programme "unusual but possible" locations into the data just in case of situations like this. Must admit I'm curious at how a down train got there too.

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Willesden 829/931 Location 15/07/2015 at 05:18 #74239
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" said:
It's definitely wrong but can also be right
Though not on this occasion! :doh

Funnier things happen in real life.......

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Willesden 829/931 Location 15/07/2015 at 08:33 #74241
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Looks like an RHTT which has already reversed per TT, and is due to reverse again at 829/931 (I don't have Simsig to actually check the TT!)
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Willesden 829/931 Location 15/07/2015 at 18:18 #74257
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Yes the train got there as its an RHTT that has entered from Watford junction on the Up Fast, and reverses at that location and leaves back on the Down slow to do another strecth of spraying
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Willesden 829/931 Location 20/07/2015 at 12:39 #74384
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The problem appears to be at North Wembley Junction as there is no routing codes in the schedule for the FL to SL move and also lost the ability to set in edit.


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Willesden 829/931 Location 20/07/2015 at 13:05 #74385
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That timetable says the train departs Harrow and Wealdstone ("Lin"on the Fast Line ("FL"and arrives at Wembley Central ("Pth"on the Slow Line ("SL"). The only place this movement can happen is North Wembley Junction.
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Willesden 829/931 Location 20/07/2015 at 13:06 #74386
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There wouldn't be wrong route code for FL- SL moves as these occur frequently when not planned to get round failures, possessions or just to regulate the service. It could possibly be improved with Wrong Route Code at North Wembley for trains going to Willesden 829/931, but a) it's only 1 train in the entire timetable, b) doesn't actually exist in the real world, a signaller relies on a driver coming up in a heap and saying 'Oi! Watcha doin??' which frequently (Perhaps too frequently) only occurs after the driver has passed said signal that has the wrong route set.
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Willesden 829/931 Location 21/07/2015 at 10:21 #74396
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" said:
That timetable says the train departs Harrow and Wealdstone ("Lin"on the Fast Line ("FL"and arrives at Wembley Central ("Pth"on the Slow Line ("SL"). The only place this movement can happen is North Wembley Junction.
You and I both know that, but the Sim does not, that is why there should be a route defined by the path & line entered at North Wembley Junction to tell the Sim that it crosses, otherwise it ends up on the Up Fast as per the original post.

Last edited: 21/07/2015 at 10:21 by lnwrelectric
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Willesden 829/931 Location 22/07/2015 at 05:40 #74414
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