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Exeter v5.0 06/11/2015 at 06:38 #77476 | |
NewBuildmini432
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Theres no Silk Mill LC but it says still passed on open.
Class 150/2 approaching towards Welshpool. Wrong train you got, only 158's are fitted with ERTMS. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 06/11/2015 at 15:03 #77478 | |
slatteryc
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On the pictures above I find it very nice if people post location pics of SIMSIG controlled major junctions ! thank you !
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Exeter v5.0 06/11/2015 at 15:06 #77479 | |
--miki--
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" said:Theres no Silk Mill LC but it says still passed on open. Already reported and fixed in next version. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 11:00 #77845 | |
Louis
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Just a couple of questions/points about the new release, although not specific to it I don't think. Where is the entry point at Ivybridge? I noted a train took less than 2 minutes from entering Ivybridge to passing Aish (Most trains are booked 4 minutes Ivybridge to Aish), so it must be somewhere between Ivybridge and Aish. Could this perhaps be moved back and include a separate one for when a train calls at Ivybridge? I think this could be a general SimSig loader issue, but anyway, I noticed I had the sim on 'perfect' mode and yet a train still entered the area 1 minute late, any idea why? This was at Ivybridge, not sure if it is specific to it though. Keep up the good work. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 11:12 #77846 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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Ivybridge is about ten miles from Totnes. There is an issue with the entry point here which Peter is aware of. No idea about the one minute late thing though. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 11:22 #77849 | |
Louis
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" said:Ivybridge is about ten miles from Totnes. There is an issue with the entry point here which Peter is aware of.Sounds like both issues I mentioned are related then to the Ivybridge entry point issue. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 18:19 #77864 | |
Steamer
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What timetable are you running? It's possible that the late running train has a rule assigned to it, but having said that Ivybridge isn't the sort of fringe where I'd expect to see "Must not enter until X minutes after Y happens" rules applied. How long ago did the last train enter there, i.e. could one have been stuck behind the other? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 18:55 #77869 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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That fringe was changed Steamer at V5 due to the omission of Aish Crossovers from previous versions, Aish being a compulsory timing point. My understanding is that the Ivybridge entry was retained so that existing timetables were not broken by it. It is possible I suppose that Ivybridge wasn't in the right place to start with and now is. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 19:18 #77873 | |
jc92
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" said:That fringe was changed Steamer at V5 due to the omission of Aish Crossovers from previous versions, Aish being a compulsory timing point.The Trouble with Aish as an entry point is that for older timetables Aish isnt a location, let alone a Compulsory one. BR era timetables run Newton Abbot > Dainton Tunnel > Totnes > Hemerdon > Lipson Jcn > Plymouth. Ivybridge Didnt have a station (as far as Exeter PSB is concerned) until 1994 so doesnt appear Prior to that. that said it is possible to approximate timings for older timetables based on current ones from RTT. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 19:53 #77874 | |
Louis
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I noticed it on a timetable I was making. I then created a brand new timetable and created a couple of trains to see what was going on. It was in this new timetable I noticed what I reported. Ivybridge can't be in the right place if trains are passing Aish within 2 minutes of entering there. The section at line speed is at least 4 minutes Ivybridge to Aish. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 20:12 #77876 | |
Louis
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" said:What timetable are you running? It's possible that the late running train has a rule assigned to it, but having said that Ivybridge isn't the sort of fringe where I'd expect to see "Must not enter until X minutes after Y happens" rules applied.I noticed it on a timetable I was making. I then created a brand new timetable and created a couple of trains to see what was going on. It was in this new timetable I noticed what I reported. Ivybridge can't be in the right place if trains are passing Aish within 2 minutes of entering there. The section at line speed is at least 4 minutes Ivybridge to Aish. (Posted again, for some reason I could not see what I posted at 1953) Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 22:12 #77886 | |
jeffh16
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" said:Someone in the know has kindly answered this for me.Control Tables and Aspect Sequence Chart also confirm this. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 18/11/2015 at 23:16 #77887 | |
Peter Bennet
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If someone can dig out the Miles and Chains for the 3 locations for me I'll double check the TC lengths between. If it is wrong then it's more likely that it's the placing of the locations where its amiss - particularly Ivybridge which post-dates the plans I have. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 00:14 #77890 | |
postal
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" said:If someone can dig out the Miles and Chains for the 3 locations for me I'll double check the TC lengths between. If it is wrong then it's more likely that it's the placing of the locations where its amiss - particularly Ivybridge which post-dates the plans I have.According to Table A of the Sectional Appendix, Ivybridge is at 234m 27ch, Aish Crossover is at 230m 37ch and Totnes is at 222m 66ch. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 19/11/2015 at 00:15 by postal Reason: typo Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 00:18 #77891 | |
JamesN
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Ivybridge is at 234mi 27ch, approx 1mi on the approach side of UM230R signal. Aish is at 230mi 37ch Totnes is at 222mi 66ch **** I'm not able to see what, if any, gradients are programmed into the sim, but they are very significant between Ivybridge and Totnes - that may have an impact on SRTs Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 14:47 #77901 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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The location given for UM230R signal above is wildly out!
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Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 17:47 #77906 | |
JamesN
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" said:The location given for UM230R signal above is wildly out!Typo, meant to read 2 miles. Ivybridge is just before 234 1/4 MP UM230R is just after 232 1/4 MP Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 17:52 #77908 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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It isn't there either. It is 232m 11ch, BEFORE not after the 232 1/4 peg.
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Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 18:05 #77910 | |
GeoffM
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" said:It isn't there either. It is 232m 11ch, BEFORE not after the 232 1/4 peg.Since mileposts go down in the up direction, it's actually after the 232¼ milepost... assuming you're travelling in the up direction on the up main. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following users said thank you: JamesN, DriverCurran |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 18:36 #77911 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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I was working on the theory of where the signals in that area are considered by those who work there to be located. To avoid confusion if anyone who has to visit the signal referred to where it was it would be just after because its on the high side of the milepost. How a driver would report the signal probably depends on who he is and how much his message got distorted before his report got to those who needed to receive it though. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 20:11 #77919 | |
Peter Bennet
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The error was essentially a typo in allocating the relevant (sub) TC to the location Ivybridge. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 21:13 #77923 | |
Danny252
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" said:Since mileposts go down in the up direction, it's actually after the 232¼ milepost... assuming you're travelling in the up direction on the up main.Well, one might hope that mileposts will still go down if you go up along the down main... :whistle: Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |
Exeter v5.0 19/11/2015 at 21:53 #77927 | |
GeoffM
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" said:" said:Well, true, but was trying to point out that neither James' nor Stephen's posts were incorrect.Since mileposts go down in the up direction, it's actually after the 232¼ milepost... assuming you're travelling in the up direction on the up main.Well, one might hope that mileposts will still go down if you go up along the down main... :whistle: SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |
Exeter v5.0 20/11/2015 at 02:19 #77928 | |
officer dibble
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Thank you for the update to what is one of my favourite simulations Peter. Out of interest are there any plans to amend the layout in the Lapford station area to facilitate the goods yard that used to be there? I think it used be served by a cement train, along with the fertilizer train to the U.K.F. Sdg. I have a 1992 TT waiting in the wings and this local trip working cannot currently be timetabled. Kind regards. Log in to reply |
Exeter v5.0 20/11/2015 at 06:42 #77931 | |
jc92
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" said:Thank you for the update to what is one of my favourite simulations Peter.I've raised this several months ago. Mantis 0013885 applies. Theres no requirement for the Yard to be modelled as the signaller has no involvment in the shunt and the groundframe isn't equipped to lock a train in. all it needs is for a train to be timetabled to/from Lapford witha rule to hold it there for a while. its possible to write a Valid timetable, but the train fails to change direction at Lapford and Continues to Eggesford. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: officer dibble |