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| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 21:30 #79611 | |
RainbowNines
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I was observing the Exeter game this evening when that pesky WinsfordSaltMine, faced with a points failure, put a Voyager into platform 2. Said Voyager was reported in F2 as being 116m long (thus 5 cars, if my maths is right). According to the wiki platform 2 is only 102m. I haven't changed the wiki as I'm not sure whether that's wrong or whether the sim is incorrect, but thought I'd report it just in case. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: WinsfordSaltMine |
| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 21:34 #79612 | |
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jeffh16
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had a quick glance at my sectional appendix and St Davids Platform 2 is 102m long as reported in the wiki
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| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 21:38 #79613 | |
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RainbowNines
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I should probably better clarify - the Voyager did fit inside the starter (and track circuit), so with Jeff's confirmation, the Sim must be slightly out.
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| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 21:55 #79616 | |
headshot119
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" said:I should probably better clarify - the Voyager did fit inside the starter (and track circuit), so with Jeff's confirmation, the Sim must be slightly out.Or the track circuit is slightly longer than the platform and hence the train looked like it was in. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 21:57 #79617 | |
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RainbowNines
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" said:" said:I hadn't thought of that, and it's fair enough, but the starter is on the platform there isn't it?I should probably better clarify - the Voyager did fit inside the starter (and track circuit), so with Jeff's confirmation, the Sim must be slightly out.Or the track circuit is slightly longer than the platform and hence the train looked like it was in. Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 22:16 #79618 | |
Peter Bennet
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The track circuit is 139m long. 102m from the buffers takes us to a point parallel to the A-end of the pointwork which is presumably to mitigate fouling. The sim is not 100% correct in that there is only one TC whereas it's split it into two (130m/9m) otherwise you would not be able to send anything into the siding if P2 was occupied. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 22:17 #79619 | |
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headshot119
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" said:" said:I'd need to see a signalling plan to give an accurate answer. I was providing one alternative." said:I hadn't thought of that, and it's fair enough, but the starter is on the platform there isn't it?I should probably better clarify - the Voyager did fit inside the starter (and track circuit), so with Jeff's confirmation, the Sim must be slightly out.Or the track circuit is slightly longer than the platform and hence the train looked like it was in. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: RainbowNines |
| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 22:27 #79620 | |
Steamer
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" said:The track circuit is 139m long. 102m from the buffers takes us to a point parallel to the A-end of the pointwork which is presumably to mitigate fouling. The sim is not 100% correct in that there is only one TC whereas it's split it into two (130m/9m) otherwise you would not be able to send anything into the siding if P2 was occupied.Does that mean that in real life, with a train occupying platform 2, it will occupy the track circuit over the points, but you can still signal a train into the siding? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 05/01/2016 at 22:36 #79621 | |
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RainbowNines
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Having had a peek at the Street View can see what Peter means now. Thought it worthy of note, but explanation makes sense.
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| Platform 2 Length 06/01/2016 at 06:45 #79623 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:" said:I wondered that myself when I wrote that. I'll need to wade through the control tables. Seems odd to have a length restriction if in reality there could never be a clash: unless it can be done by arm waving.The track circuit is 139m long. 102m from the buffers takes us to a point parallel to the A-end of the pointwork which is presumably to mitigate fouling. The sim is not 100% correct in that there is only one TC whereas it's split it into two (130m/9m) otherwise you would not be able to send anything into the siding if P2 was occupied.Does that mean that in real life, with a train occupying platform 2, it will occupy the track circuit over the points, but you can still signal a train into the siding? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 06/01/2016 at 10:59 #79626 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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There is an issue here, which I have logged as bug 14831.
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| Platform 2 Length 06/01/2016 at 13:15 #79627 | |
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RainbowNines
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Thanks Stephen. Whatever the case, it appears differently on the sim to on the ground. On the ground it looks like the signal is ahead of the points, whereas in the sim the platform starter is very much inside the points. Of course that might be deliberate to workaround a complex layout, deliberate to replicate appearance of the panel, both or neither, but hope it helps in any case. Last edited: 06/01/2016 at 13:15 by RainbowNines Reason: Grammar... Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 06/01/2016 at 16:15 #79629 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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The signal is in line with the points in reality and the track circuiting isn't right in the sim either. You could not use the siding with the platform occupied in reality. Log in to reply |
| Platform 2 Length 07/01/2016 at 09:55 #79653 | |
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jeffh16
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Yeah having had a glance at the IRJ it's just one TC in the platform that occupies the points as well, so siding not accessible with train in platforms
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