King's Cross 1985-1986 Timetable

JamesN wrote:
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I think John's point is - the rule is coded to have the train sit in the yard for 19 (15 now) minutes. If the unit is just turning around then why isn't it just 4 or 5?

James, the reason the unit doesn't turn around in 4 or 5 minutes as you say is because the unit forms the 1030 departure from Hitchin back to Peterborough & also for pathing purposes there isn't enough capacity for the unit to sit at Hitchin South(reverse) or Hitchin North(reverse) for the required amount of time necessary for the train to depart at 10.30. Furthermore Hitchin only having 2 platforms makes things slightly more complicated. Admitidly the ECS movements around Hitchin aren't in the WTT so it is down to the timetable writer to think what moves are open to clear P1 for other trains to stop there without having to divert trains off there booked routes. The Cl.2 services on the Up tend to run SL to Stevenage, the only exception of the semi fast Royston - KX services which run FL from Hitchin. I looked at what Kurt did in his 1985 KX timetable & I found that holding the unit at Hitchin South(reverse) technically blocked the Up Slow line until the unit would traverse the fast lines to get to Hitchin North(reverse) before rolling into P2 at Hitchin to pick up its next working, in this case 2B53 10.30 departure to Peterborough.

• Set the entry time for the train heading out of the yard to the time when the train "should" appear


• Set a rule, train B must not exit yard until 3 minutes (or however long it takes to reverse) after train A enters yard

Forgive me if I've missed a subtle point here, but wouldn't the following work:

• Set the entry time for the train heading out of the yard to the time when the train "should" appear


• Set a rule, train B must not exit yard until 3 minutes (or however long it takes to reverse) after train A enters yard

That way, if the train enters the yard early it won't re-emerge until it's supposed to, if it's running late it will be in the yard for the minimum amount of time.

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Forgive me if I've missed a subtle point here, but wouldn't the following work:

• Set the entry time for the train heading out of the yard to the time when the train "should" appear


• Set a rule, train B must not exit yard until 3 minutes (or however long it takes to reverse) after train A enters yard

That way, if the train enters the yard early it won't re-emerge until it's supposed to, if it's running late it will be in the yard for the minimum amount of time.

That's what I do Rick, and also what John suggested and as far as I know it works fine (haven't had any queries relating to it in tt's I've released anyway!)

Gareth

Unless that is anyone else has any issues to report.

I've just come across another service that appears to be missing a 'not-Monday' rule - I think it needs
Train 1E42MX Must Not Run If Train 0A00MON runs

It's not a sim issue, it's working as designed in the interlocking.

I think the simplest way round this issue & for all those who are playing this timetable can do the following alterations this should cure this particular issue. you need to edit the following train:-

5B53 10+20 EWD ECS Shunt Hitchin Up Yard - P2 (CA 3/Cl.101) UID: $5B53A The entry time for this train needs changing to 10:16 & the following locations have the following times:-

Hitchin pass. 10/17 P1
Hitchin South(reverse) arr. 10:18 dep. 10:20 (2 minutes to change ends)
Hitchin pass. 10/21
Hitchin North(reverse) arr. 10:22 dep. 10.26
Hitchin arr. 10:28 P1 N: 2B53

There is also a rule that needs amending. The rule is 5B53a must not enter until 19 minutes after 5B53 leaves the area. Change the number of minutes from 19 to 15 so the train will enter at 10:16 from the Up Yard.

I'm hoping most people should be able to do these edits, if not I'll send an updated timetable for moderator approval which will replace the one currrently up for downloading. Unless that is anyone else has any issues to report.

Hi Pascal, I've got 1E42MX here which divides into 5A99 / 5E42 / 0E42 in platform 6.

5A99 is waiting for 0T10 but when signalling the loco in the overlength light appears. I talked it past the main signal but the shunt signal won't clear either.

Again talked it by and it turns out the train does get inside the signal so I take it this is a sim issue rather than a TT one, but I thought I'd advise anyway.

Conclusion: No problem with the sim, it's working fine, and to myself no problem with the TT too, as the engine is a shunter in this case and it's behind the signal. :)

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Conclusion: No problem with the sim, it's working fine, and to myself no problem with the TT too, as the engine is a shunter in this case and it's behind the signal. :)

So the question then is - how to get that engine in?

I talked them past, but it doesn't seem right that that's the only way, especially considering the frequency of shunts in this TT (and presumably in years before it). So any views from those "in the know" would be appreciated!

I've got an issue with 0M42 which should enter Rowntrees Wood Green Siding but I can't seem to operate the Wood Green C GF 2156. Whenever I click on the F roundel I just get the message "Cannot release GF".

Any help gratefully received.