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South Wales - The Secret is Out 15/10/2016 at 17:41 #86793
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People who attended today's meet in London (October 15th 2016) will have had an opportunity to play three brand new never before seen simulations...

Cardiff - Covering Cardiff PSB (As was) and St Fagans gate box.

Cardiff Valleys - Covering Radyr SCC, Abercynon, and the former Heath Junction, Ystrad Mynach South, and Bargoed signalboxes.

Cardiff Vale of Glamorgan - Covering the former Barry, Aberthaw, and Cowbridge Road signal-boxes.

Though they won't be released immediately, they will hopefully be released in the not too distant future, so keep your eyes peeled on the forum for news. A preview of each of the simulations is attached to this post. And I'm happy to answer any questions that come along. (Please note they aren't 100% finished yet, so some parts of the simulations may still need some work)

Cardiff

Cardiff Valleys

Cardiff Vale of Glamorgan

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 15/10/2016 at 18:48 #86796
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I'm available for testing purposes :)


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South Wales - The Secret is Out 15/10/2016 at 19:43 #86798
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Will the manual come with a pronunciation guide, or are these sims designed so that we can laugh on Teamspeak at people trying to say Rhymney, Pontypridd, and Penrhiwceiber?
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 15/10/2016 at 23:09 #86806
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Danny252 in post 86798 said:
Will the manual come with a pronunciation guide, or are these sims designed so that we can laugh on Teamspeak at people trying to say Rhymney, Pontypridd, and Penrhiwceiber? ;)

The job I have had for the last 7 years has landed me so much time in Wales - and many opportunities to listen to the bi-lingual announcements at Cardiff Central - that I can probably pronounce quite a few of those names and also know the Welsh equivalent of some of the ones that are there. Spend a day at Cardiff Central and you will probably get the hang of some of the Welsh placenames, along with some idea of the pronunciation, quite quickly: this will probably help you to work out where "Mynwent y Crynwyr" (*) and "Y Tyllgoed" (**) are if you listen enough! Other placenames covered by SimSig include Caerloyw (Gloucester) and Caerfaddon (Bath). ANyway, enough of that< see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_exonyms if you are curious.

Anyway, having been at the meet today I have prepared some splash screens for this sim that I may, or may not, release when the sim comes out.

Dave

(* = Quakers Yard // ** = Fairwater)

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 15/10/2016 at 23:52 #86810
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Danny252 in post 86798 said:
Will the manual come with a pronunciation guide, or are these sims designed so that we can laugh on Teamspeak at people trying to say Rhymney, Pontypridd, and Penrhiwceiber? ;)
You can't even pronounce your own location names correctly? (Ravenstruther = "Renstree"??? WTF???) :-O :-P :-D :-D :-D

[Said with tongue firmly planted in cheek, BTW]!! :-)

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 08:39 #86813
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Karl in your post describing the 3 sims you say Cardiff being Cardiff PSB(as was). Could you be a bit specific on eras roughly what years please, & I assume the period is the same for the other 2 sims?
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 08:49 #86814
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An old story but still amusing none the less.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3332019/Out-of-office-reply-appears-on-street-sign.html

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 09:09 #86815
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Peter Bennet in post 86814 said:
An old story but still amusing none the less.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3332019/Out-of-office-reply-appears-on-street-sign.html

Peter
Peter,

Strange, Clicking on this address above gave me a 404 error? However a copy and paste of the address onto the internet produced the story.

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 11:35 #86816
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58050 in post 86813 said:
Karl in your post describing the 3 sims you say Cardiff being Cardiff PSB(as was). Could you be a bit specific on eras roughly what years please, & I assume the period is the same for the other 2 sims?
The links at the bottom of Karl's first post will take you to screenshots of each area, so you can see the track available. The simulations don't contain different eras.

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 13:13 #86822
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58050 in post 86813 said:
Karl in your post describing the 3 sims you say Cardiff being Cardiff PSB(as was). Could you be a bit specific on eras roughly what years please, & I assume the period is the same for the other 2 sims?
Cardiff PSB (as was) was in reference to when the PSB was fully open, the East panel, and most of the Taff panel have already gone into the SWSCC, and the West panel, and the remainder of the Taff is due to follow at Christmas if all goes to plan.

The sims are roughly set in post 2000 running right up to there respective closure dates.

I have no plans at the moment to produce an earlier era as I simply don't have the required level of information available. That is not to say an older era wouldn't be done in the future.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 14:16 #86824
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Many a day spent travelling around that area as a child, looks good. Just need Newport to Severn Tunnel Junction and we're sorted
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 14:18 #86825
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Quote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3332019/Out-of-office-reply-appears-on-street-sign.html


Peter,

Strange, Clicking on this address above gave me a 404 error? However a copy and paste of the address onto the internet produced the story.

Barry
clicking on the link to me shows as https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/example.com

not sure that is right.

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 14:33 #86826
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I have no plans at the moment to produce an earlier era as I simply don't have the required level of information available. That is not to say an older era wouldn't be done in the future.

OK Karl thanks for that. I've still got my contacts on the lookout for older era signalling notices & such like for you. IIRC I've got some older eras stuff that covers the Newport/Severn Tunnel Jn/Gloucester areas. I'll take a look during the week some of which may be of use to you along with the stuff I've already passed onto you. I've certainly got photos of the Cardiff/Newport areas if you are interested to use as snapahots.

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 15:04 #86830
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flymo in post 86825 said:
Quote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3332019/Out-of-office-reply-appears-on-street-sign.html


Peter,

Strange, Clicking on this address above gave me a 404 error? However a copy and paste of the address onto the internet produced the story.

Barry
clicking on the link to me shows as https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/example.com

not sure that is right.
when entering a link on this new site the best way would be to just paste it straight in, but if using the link button, you get the following in the edit box *url=example.com**/url* (*=[ or ]) where it says example.com would need to be replaced by the link you wish to insert and inbetween the ][ you would type plain text something like Here, link or post (or what ever you choose

for example:

*url=example.com**/url*

would become

*url=http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/*National Rail*/url* (replacing * with [ or ])

and would display as National Rail

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 20:09 #86846
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Are there not five platforms now at CDQ? I'm pretty sure they were building them when I was there-though that was two and a half years ago so my memory could be serving me incorrectly.
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 20:13 #86847
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GW43125 in post 86846 said:
Are there not five platforms now at CDQ? I'm pretty sure they were building them when I was there-though that was two and a half years ago so my memory could be serving me incorrectly.
There are indeed 5 platforms at Cardiff Queen Street, however they where never controlled by Cardiff PSB, and hence are not included in the simulation.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 20:30 #86848
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headshot119 in post 86847 said:
GW43125 in post 86846 said:
Are there not five platforms now at CDQ? I'm pretty sure they were building them when I was there-though that was two and a half years ago so my memory could be serving me incorrectly.
There are indeed 5 platforms at Cardiff Queen Street, however they were never controlled by Cardiff PSB, and hence are not included in the simulation.
I don't really know much about that neck of the woods, so I have no idea what does what other than there's an IECC somewhere around Cardiff- when did Cardiff PSB close?

Also I presume the red lines on the sim are the interlockings?

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 20:42 #86849
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GW43125 in post 86848 said:
headshot119 in post 86847 said:
GW43125 in post 86846 said:
Are there not five platforms now at CDQ? I'm pretty sure they were building them when I was there-though that was two and a half years ago so my memory could be serving me incorrectly.
There are indeed 5 platforms at Cardiff Queen Street, however they were never controlled by Cardiff PSB, and hence are not included in the simulation.
I don't really know much about that neck of the woods, so I have no idea what does what other than there's an IECC somewhere around Cardiff- when did Cardiff PSB close?

Also I presume the red lines on the sim are the interlockings?
There's the South Wales Signalling Centre and Cardiff PSB both located near Cardiff Central station.

The PSB hasn't closed yet, it still controls Cardiff Central, and the mainlines out to Pontyclun.

The SWSCC controls the rest of the old PSB area, the whole Vale of Glamorgan simulation area, and the top half of the Valleys simulation. Plus all of the former Newport PSB, plus the Shrewsbury - Crewe line.


Cardiff Queen Street moved over to the SWSCC as three platforms, then the two new ones opened a couple of years later.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 16/10/2016 at 20:55 #86850
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KymriskaDraken in post 86796 said:
I'm available for testing purposes :)


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South Wales - The Secret is Out 17/10/2016 at 00:16 #86854
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As for testers , I think the author has a list the length of his arm for testers. Don't worry , it will be ready when it's ready and will be released at an appropriate time!
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South Wales - The Secret is Out 17/10/2016 at 14:11 #86862
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Just a heads-up:

On the VoG - Barry "UP THROUGH SIDINGS" is also an ML connection for the Barry Tourist Railway!

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 17/10/2016 at 15:05 #86864
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headshot119 in post 86822 said:


Cardiff PSB (as was) was in reference to when the PSB was fully open, the East panel, and most of the Taff panel....
Two words that will bring shivers and nightmares for some after Saturday!

Gareth

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 17/10/2016 at 15:09 #86865
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TimTamToe in post 86864 said:
headshot119 in post 86822 said:


Cardiff PSB (as was) was in reference to when the PSB was fully open, the East panel, and most of the Taff panel....
Two words that will bring shivers and nightmares for some after Saturday!

Gareth
And the two words response from Taff panel is not repeatable!

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 17/10/2016 at 19:50 #86877
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Karl,

It was great to play the previews of the Cardiff area on Saturday so "Diolch yn fawr" for the opportunity. A couple of thoughts, if I may, regarding the Cardiff Central sim (although these have probably crossed your mind already):

- For lines C, D & E at Cardiff West Jcn allow the option (if it doesn't already exist), when editing / creating a timetable, to specify whether a train should be send on line C, D or E. This should be on both Taff panel and West panel.

- For lines C, D & E put some indication of where they go (ie. "To Ninian Park and Radyr" on West panel but "Main Lines and Cardiff Central P3 & P4".

Otherwise nice job.

Dave

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South Wales - The Secret is Out 17/10/2016 at 20:06 #86879
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DaveHarries in post 86877 said:
Karl,

It was great to play the previews of the Cardiff area on Saturday so "Diolch yn fawr" for the opportunity. A couple of thoughts, if I may, regarding the Cardiff Central sim (although these have probably crossed your mind already):

- For lines C, D & E at Cardiff West Jcn allow the option (if it doesn't already exist), when editing / creating a timetable, to specify whether a train should be send on line C, D or E. This should be on both Taff panel and West panel.

While a good suggestion it doesn't really work like that. The route combinations are so numerous it's impossible to say that train MUST use line D for example.

DaveHarries in post 86877 said:


- For lines C, D & E put some indication of where they go (ie. "To Ninian Park and Radyr" on West panel but "Main Lines and Cardiff Central P3 & P4".

Otherwise nice job.

Dave
I've had many thoughts myself, and from my testers, and from people who have seen the sim on what to do with this.

Taf panel to West Panel is quite easy to label up. However the other way around is next to impossible, the list would be massive.

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