Vintage Peterborough - Flyash issues

However, when the train reaches P470 on the up Stamford ARS routes it correctly towards P4 but I get the message that 6E30 has a wrong route set at P430 with the options to either wait 5 and replace the signal, abandon the timetable or bypass Peterborough.

It says it is booked via the Flyash line which it clearly isn't.

Whilst there is access to the Flyash line at the north end, there is no signalling to allow it to run out of the south end (and a set of catchpoints too!) towards to Fletton Flyash circle.

If however, I remove the Flyash line as the last entry in the schedule leaving just Fletton Flyash as the last entry, it accepts the routing without question.

Of course then, given the instruction regarding timetabling trains here it won't return to the sim via the flyash circle.

It says it is booked via the Flyash line which it clearly isn't.

Mark, I need to look into your point as well as I would have expected that to work.

I wonder if there is something wrong with the operation of the signalling in the Up direction along the Down Slow between Peterborough Station and Fletton. There are two signals, labelled 56R and 56. 56R has both main and subsidiary aspects, 56 is just a "shunt" signal. You can set a route from Sig 442 (Platform 4) or Sig 444 (Platform 5) to 56R but not to 56. You can set a route from 56 to the Fletton Loop. I cannot set a route from 56R at all.

Usually signals suffixed "R" are repeaters or "distants" for main signals, so I wouldn't expect to be able to set a route to them. Should the routes from 442 and 444 be to 56 rather than 56R?

Chris

However, when the train reaches P470 on the up Stamford ARS routes it correctly towards P4 but I get the message that 6E30 has a wrong route set at P430 with the options to either wait 5 and replace the signal, abandon the timetable or bypass Peterborough.

It says it is booked via the Flyash line which it clearly isn't.

I have had a play about with this and one option I thought might work was changing Peterborough Flyash Line to Peterborough and have platform as FAL, thinking that it stood for "Flyash Line" however I am finding that ARS wants to route trains with FAL as the platform into P4 and the driver will also call in wrong route.

There does seen to be another inconsistency as well I created a test TT where the train went round the loop and returned to Peterborough S DS and had it change trains to another one ie 4A00 went round loop and returned to sim and stopped on PBO S DS and became 4A01, but the TD for 4A00 set the route into P4 at PBO

I wonder if there is something wrong with the operation of the signalling in the Up direction along the Down Slow between Peterborough Station and Fletton. There are two signals, labelled 56R and 56. 56R has both main and subsidiary aspects, 56 is just a "shunt" signal. You can set a route from Sig 442 (Platform 4) or Sig 444 (Platform 5) to 56R but not to 56. You can set a route from 56 to the Fletton Loop. I cannot set a route from 56R at all.

Usually signals suffixed "R" are repeaters or "distants" for main signals, so I wouldn't expect to be able to set a route to them. Should the routes from 442 and 444 be to 56 rather than 56R?

mark265 in post 95192 said:

There does seen to be another inconsistency as well I created a test TT where the train went round the loop and returned to Peterborough S DS and had it change trains to another one ie 4A00 went round loop and returned to sim and stopped on PBO S DS and became 4A01, but the TD for 4A00 set the route into P4 at PBO

I can't reproduce that. Can you? If so, please save a game at the point you re-interpose 4A00 at signal 419.

mark265 in post 95189 said:

I have had a play about with this and one option I thought might work was changing Peterborough Flyash Line to Peterborough and have platform as FAL, thinking that it stood for "Flyash Line" however I am finding that ARS wants to route trains with FAL as the platform into P4 and the driver will also call in wrong route.

FAL is indeed the Flyash Line and the ARS has a rule for that, so I'm not sure why you're seeing it. Indeed, I've just tried it myself and I get "3A01 requires manual route R421AS to be set" - that's the route into the Flyash line. But, yes, I do get the wrong route call - that needs fixing. Mantis 17391.

I have had a play about with this and one option I thought might work was changing Peterborough Flyash Line to Peterborough and have platform as FAL, thinking that it stood for "Flyash Line" however I am finding that ARS wants to route trains with FAL as the platform into P4

mark265 in post 95189 said:

I have had a play about with this and one option I thought might work was changing Peterborough Flyash Line to Peterborough and have platform as FAL, thinking that it stood for "Flyash Line" however I am finding that ARS wants to route trains with FAL as the platform into P4

This seems to be a generic ARS problem - when you interpose the description at 419, it generates ARS routes starting from the beginning of the timetable, not the current location.

Mantis 17392.

Assuming you mean the train passes the same signals twice, albeit in opposite directions, and the TD disappears and has to be re-interposed, then this is a real world problem too - signallers just have to deal with it. The ARS has no idea whether this is the first time the train is in that berth or the second time - there is no history, and indeed could be confused by a second train with the same headcode later in the day.

Ticket rejected.