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| TCF at Ilkley 01/09/2017 at 00:15 #101415 | |
brick60000
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Hi all, Running this sim at the moment, and have just encountered a track section failure in platform 1 at Ilkley. My question is that were this to happen at such a terminus station, would trains be authorised past the signal at danger into the platform, or simply held to use the other platform upon it becoming free? Brick60000 Log in to reply |
| TCF at Ilkley 01/09/2017 at 08:25 #101419 | |
VInce
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Hi, The general rule - at least in my somewhat dated experience - is that you should divert a train onto other lines during times of failure, if that is possible e.g. where there is a tcf on the fast lines then use the slows. This ensures you still use the security of the signalling system rather that introduce risk by talking trains past signals at danger I don't know Ilkley or the sim the sim in question but I feel almost certain that you would use other platforms. If the two lines are in a bay, then you would use the next train into the unaffected platform to examine the line. At manned stations too you would have the option of having the line examined on foot by a "responsible person" possibly one of the station staff. There are places in my experience in which the local instructions demand that you put in a form of "working by pilotman" if you wish to use a platform affected in this way as a platform at a terminal station could be regarded as a single line. This is purely a technicality and would almost never happen in practice because it is so impractical and probably add to the delay rather than save any time. So, use other platforms when you can. Vince I walk around inside the questions of my day, I navigate the inner reaches of my disarray, I pass the altars where fools and thieves hold sway, I wait for night to come and lift this dread away : Jackson Browne - The Night Inside Me Last edited: 01/09/2017 at 09:03 by VInce Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| TCF at Ilkley 01/09/2017 at 11:05 #101421 | |
Splodge
716 posts |
In the situation at Ilkley, providing the line is examined and confirmed to be clear, you could use the permissive working/subsidiary aspect to route trains in if the location of the TCF allows this. I don't know of the procedure to follow from the signalling side, but I know its something that was done at Crewe P1 for quite some time due to repeated TC issues.
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| TCF at Ilkley 01/09/2017 at 11:58 #101422 | |
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Danny252
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Quote:I don't know of the procedure to follow from the signalling side, but I know its something that was done at Crewe P1 for quite some time due to repeated TC issues.Other than telling the driver, not much: TS11 Reg. 9.2 said: You may clear a subsidiary signal or a position-light signal in placeThe only restriction given is that the train must be normally permitted to proceed under the subsidiary aspect. Last edited: 01/09/2017 at 11:58 by Danny252 Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| TCF at Ilkley 01/09/2017 at 13:14 #101424 | |
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Splodge
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I don't think they were required to tell the driver in the Crewe situation as it's a permissive platform for all movements (PP) anyway.
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