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| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 12:16 #101909 | |
thecabbagedetective
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I'm currently writing a timetable for Plymouth and I have two trains join at Plymouth platform 8 which then moves to platform 3 as ecs, where the train then changes to a different timetable for it's onward service. The train when it arrives to the platform, instead of changing to the next service, doesn't change from 5C54 to 2C54 and just states in the train list window that it is at buffer stops. The train is fully in the platform area and the length of the train is less than the platform area, so i'm not sure if i'm doing something wrong? Any one got any ideas? Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 12:43 #101911 | |
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JamesN
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Can you attach a save game of the train in that "waiting" state.
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| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 13:39 #101912 | |
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thecabbagedetective
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Train 5C54 at platform 3.
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| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 14:53 #101913 | |
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MarkC
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Dev's/Testers I don't know if this will be of any help but I think there maybe an issue with the length of P3 in what registars as the platform. I tried various times to get 5C54 (length 78m) in to P3 but it would not registar as being there, however I reduced the length of the train to 70m and it worked. So I set about testing various lengths to see what worked. Any train length of 75m or under works as it should ie, train changes to next working as it should. However I found that if the train length was 76m or over, train reports in F2 "At Buffer Stops" having looked at wiki for Plymouth platform lengths it says P3 is 79m Last edited: 24/09/2017 at 14:54 by MarkC Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 17:43 #101914 | |
Steamer
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Mantis 17980. Timetable planning rules and Sectional Appendix show the bay as being 78m, so the train should (just!) fit.
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| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 20:20 #101917 | |
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bill_gensheet
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Does a train not normally stop short of the buffers unless told otherwise ? 'At buffers' might be 'as close as I want to go'. I vaguely recall a similar issue in Edinburgh & Glasgow QS Might be worth trying setting a stop position of FX=0 in case that squeezes an extra metre or two in? Bill Log in to reply The following user said thank you: thecabbagedetective |
| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 20:31 #101919 | |
Peter Bennet
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Steamer in post 101914 said:Mantis 17980. Timetable planning rules and Sectional Appendix show the bay as being 78m, so the train should (just!) fit.Sim is set at 79m Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 20:50 #101920 | |
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Steamer
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Peter Bennet in post 101919 said:Steamer in post 101914 said:Just tried Bill's solution, and it worked. Didn't realise a train would stop (presumably) 4 or 5m away from the 'buffers'.Mantis 17980. Timetable planning rules and Sectional Appendix show the bay as being 78m, so the train should (just!) fit.Sim is set at 79m "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 24/09/2017 at 20:51 by Steamer Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 24/09/2017 at 23:05 #101921 | |
postal
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Steamer in post 101920 said:Just tried Bill's solution, and it worked. Didn't realise a train would stop (presumably) 4 or 5m away from the 'buffers'.They also stop short of the platform signal even if FX is called. TT I'm working on has a number of long freightliners stopping for crew change and I've had to set the stopping position as FX -5m so the loco stops just shy of the signal and the back end just crawls beyond the fouling point. By experiment, I think the default gap on the sim I am using seems to be 7m. I don't know whether that is generic SimSig or sim specific. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 25/09/2017 at 06:43 #101922 | |
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Peter Bennet
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postal in post 101921 said:Steamer in post 101920 said:It's generic. If you have a tester license you can watch "debug" from the f2 options which shows the position of the train vis-a-vis TC length.Just tried Bill's solution, and it worked. Didn't realise a train would stop (presumably) 4 or 5m away from the 'buffers'.They also stop short of the platform signal even if FX is called. TT I'm working on has a number of long freightliners stopping for crew change and I've had to set the stopping position as FX -5m so the loco stops just shy of the signal and the back end just crawls beyond the fouling point. By experiment, I think the default gap on the sim I am using seems to be 7m. I don't know whether that is generic SimSig or sim specific. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| At buffer stops? 25/09/2017 at 14:41 #101926 | |
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thecabbagedetective
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Cheers all. Just to save the hassle and make it easier for everyone, i'll just chop 2m off of the trains to make them fit! Which leads me to my next question, there is no folder in the downloads for Plymouth timetables, I'm guessing this is something I cannot do myself, so could someone do it for me please? 
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| At buffer stops? 25/09/2017 at 14:50 #101927 | |
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MarkC
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thecabbagedetective in post 101926 said:Cheers all. Just to save the hassle and make it easier for everyone, i'll just chop 2m off of the trains to make them fit!There should be one and as you have TT's showing in loader for plymouth to select it suggests its there I can only speek of windows 7 folders (as I don't know where the public folder for other versions of windows or other OS's) but it should be C:\Users\Public\Documents\SimSig\Timetables\plymouth Last edited: 25/09/2017 at 14:52 by MarkC Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 25/09/2017 at 15:26 #101929 | |
KymriskaDraken
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mark265 in post 101927 said:thecabbagedetective in post 101926 said:I think he means the Downloads section on the website. The Plymouth folder is inside the Western one.Cheers all. Just to save the hassle and make it easier for everyone, i'll just chop 2m off of the trains to make them fit!There should be one and as you have TT's showing in loader for plymouth to select it suggests its there Kev Last edited: 25/09/2017 at 15:28 by KymriskaDraken Reason: Add folder path Log in to reply The following user said thank you: thecabbagedetective |
| At buffer stops? 25/09/2017 at 15:27 #101930 | |
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MarkC
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KymriskaDraken in post 101929 said:mark265 in post 101927 said:ah ok,, no worriesthecabbagedetective in post 101926 said:I think he means the Downloads section on the website.Cheers all. Just to save the hassle and make it easier for everyone, i'll just chop 2m off of the trains to make them fit!There should be one and as you have TT's showing in loader for plymouth to select it suggests its there Last edited: 25/09/2017 at 15:32 by MarkC Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| At buffer stops? 26/09/2017 at 00:01 #101944 | |
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thecabbagedetective
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KymriskaDraken in post 101929 said:mark265 in post 101927 said:Cheers. Obviously didn't look hard enough!thecabbagedetective in post 101926 said:I think he means the Downloads section on the website. The Plymouth folder is inside the Western one.Cheers all. Just to save the hassle and make it easier for everyone, i'll just chop 2m off of the trains to make them fit!There should be one and as you have TT's showing in loader for plymouth to select it suggests its there Log in to reply |