Carlisle Issues

Phil-jmw in post 111032 said:

I managed to wrongly route 6M29 2210 Earles Sdgs - London Rd (Upperby Yard) towards Kingmoor.

Two things:-
1. 6M29 driver didn't query the route at London Rd Jn.
2. After I realised my mistake I offered the train to Kingmoor Yard and the shunter accepted it into Recessing Sdgs 1-5. The manual does say to expect a delay when sending trains to Kingmoor that aren't booked there, but 6M29 has currently been standing on the Down Goods at Kingmoor Depot for over two hours and still the recess sdgs slot has not been given.

I know from experience that trains did often queue up for lengthy periods of time waiting to get into yards (and on the Trent sim you can wait over 30 mins for a Toton New Bank or Old Bank slot), so I'm just wondering if prototypically lengthy waiting times have been built into the sim or is there a bug preventing me getting the slot? I've attached a save.


Regards,

Phil.

Presumably 1979-1980 TT.

For Down trains, you don't need ring the yard; the slot is granted automatically. However, I suspect this is only for trains which have a designated arrival location in the TT or which are booked through the yard to carry on Northwards (i.e. the yard is not the terminating location) so you've found a gap in the defences. Rather than instructing the train to PSAD to the Down Arrivals side of the Yard, you can manually signal it into one of the Up Departure lines without a slot. This is the TT'd route for some trains which have a RR move in the yard then depart back towards Carlisle (and which can leave a train sitting for a long time waiting the automatic slot before the Bobby reads the TT and puts the train into the Up Departures!). And if you wanted to be really finicky, you could then write a TT to send the train back from the UD after time for the RR move and into the sidings at Upperby. If you used the same UID, this would also trigger the LD move from Upperby to either Wapping Sdgs or Kingmoor (can't remember which off the top of my head).

I cannot signal trains from Oxenholme Platform 3 to the up line, or between the up and down lines at Oxenholme.

I cannot signal trains from Oxenholme Platform 3 to the up line, or between the up and down lines at Oxenholme.

The lever frame for Currock wagon works doesn't work 80s version. Can open the lever frame but there is no way of setting the points.

I cannot signal trains from Oxenholme Platform 3 to the up line, or between the up and down lines at Oxenholme.

Noticed trains entering in from Carnforth 2016 era enter two mins late any idea why?

Good evening, I downloaded and installed from this website the Carlisle's timetables of 2017 and 2016, but the Loader doesen't read them. Why? They are on the right folder.

GeorgeUK in post 111203 said:

I cannot signal trains from Oxenholme Platform 3 to the up line, or between the up and down lines at Oxenholme.

I can verify it works normally in the 2000 and 2016 era, although I do raise a issue regarding signal CE38 at Oxenholme, I incorrectly pathed 6X77 into the Down Loop so I cancelled the route on CE38 the usual message of 120 secs approach lock appears but the signal itself doesn't flash when but back on.

Working for me in 4.8.2 in 1980s mode at Corby Gates.

There was an issue in version 4.8 of the Loader where some entry points weren't generating a 'train entering system' warning, however that has since been fixed. It could be a hangover from that?

It does beg the question though: why does the interlocking allow a permissive route where permissive working isn't authorised?
(in reference to the prototype, I'm not saying the sim is incorrect)