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Close Crossing 12/12/2018 at 22:38 #113931
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At Pinhoe and Topsham you have Close Crossing but the normal crossing control ie Raise, Lower, Clear then Auto so what does the greyed out button marked Close Crossing mean please?
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Close Crossing 12/12/2018 at 22:42 #113933
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When it lights it's telling you to close the crossing.
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Close Crossing 12/12/2018 at 22:49 #113934
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It's an instruction to close the crossing when a train is approaching on non-TC sections.

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A 'Close Crossing' indicator is provided at Pinhoe to let the signaller know when a Down train is approaching the crossing.
The overlaps for EJ26 and EJ27 extend into their respective single line sections. If two trains are passing at Topsham, the warner routes towards these signals should be used.
A "close crossing" indicator is provided for Down trains.

Though the latter could be clearer that it's referring to Topsham [fixed]

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Close Crossing 13/12/2018 at 08:00 #113936
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Thank you guys, just never really noticed it before as don't often play Exeter despite being one of my favourite areas to simulate!
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Close Crossing 13/12/2018 at 10:06 #113939
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Please note in this case that Exton station is inside the track circuit used by the 'close crossing' light, you should watch departure times at that station to avoid lowering too early.
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Close Crossing 13/12/2018 at 14:18 #113941
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Albert in post 113939 said:
Please note in this case that Exton station is inside the track circuit used by the 'close crossing' light, you should watch departure times at that station to avoid lowering too early.
Not forgetting that these days, Exton is a request stop, so in realiaty you'd have no idea if a train had called there or not, neither would you know if a train had departed there and waiting at your signal until you got a call.

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Close Crossing 23/12/2018 at 20:58 #114231
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Is there an event sound in the F3 menu that we can assign to this light coming on? It's easy to miss it if you are distracted elsewhere on the sim.
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Close Crossing 23/12/2018 at 21:10 #114232
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lazzer in post 114231 said:
Is there an event sound in the F3 menu that we can assign to this light coming on? It's easy to miss it if you are distracted elsewhere on the sim.
Not in sim at present, and from a realism perspective they don’t beep/buzz/bell in reality - but it wouldn’t be an impossible feature to implement. Feature request recorded on bug board under Mantis 22519.

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Close Crossing 23/12/2018 at 22:06 #114233
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It’s possible they might in reality beep, some of them on Cornwall have a buzzer on
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Close Crossing 23/12/2018 at 22:12 #114234
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pedroathome in post 113941 said:
Not forgetting that these days, Exton is a request stop, so in realiaty you'd have no idea if a train had called there or not, neither would you know if a train had departed there and waiting at your signal until you got a call.
Does anybody know of a list of request stops between Exmouth and Barnstaple and when they were implemented/withdrawn? Would be useful to amend TT's with the recent request stop enhancement...

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Close Crossing 23/12/2018 at 22:34 #114235
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Soton_Speed in post 114234 said:
pedroathome in post 113941 said:
Not forgetting that these days, Exton is a request stop, so in realiaty you'd have no idea if a train had called there or not, neither would you know if a train had departed there and waiting at your signal until you got a call.
Does anybody know of a list of request stops between Exmouth and Barnstaple and when they were implemented/withdrawn? Would be useful to amend TT's with the recent request stop enhancement...
Between Barnstaple and Exeter, ALL stations are request stops these days, with the excepton of Eggesford (for token exchange) and Crediton. Not in the too distant past, Yeoford became a request stop if memory serves me correctly

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Close Crossing 23/12/2018 at 22:42 #114236
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Soton_Speed in post 114234 said:
pedroathome in post 113941 said:
Not forgetting that these days, Exton is a request stop, so in realiaty you'd have no idea if a train had called there or not, neither would you know if a train had departed there and waiting at your signal until you got a call.
Does anybody know of a list of request stops between Exmouth and Barnstaple and when they were implemented/withdrawn? Would be useful to amend TT's with the recent request stop enhancement...
Although it has been answered by pedroathome, there is a list on Wikipedia that has a list of Railway request stops in Great Britain this may prove useful for other timetablers

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Close Crossing 24/12/2018 at 09:53 #114240
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lazzer in post 114231 said:
Is there an event sound in the F3 menu that we can assign to this light coming on? It's easy to miss it if you are distracted elsewhere on the sim.
Cheers for that.

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Close Crossing 24/12/2018 at 11:58 #114242
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lazzer in post 114231 said:
Is there an event sound in the F3 menu that we can assign to this light coming on? It's easy to miss it if you are distracted elsewhere on the sim.
JamesN in post 114232 said:

Not in sim at present, and from a realism perspective they don’t beep/buzz/bell in reality.
Stephen Fulcher in post 114233 said:
It’s possible they might in reality beep, some of them on Cornwall have a buzzer on
Does anyone have a definitive answer to this, or know someone who might?

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Close Crossing 24/12/2018 at 12:16 #114243
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Peter Bennet in post 114242 said:
lazzer in post 114231 said:
Is there an event sound in the F3 menu that we can assign to this light coming on? It's easy to miss it if you are distracted elsewhere on the sim.
JamesN in post 114232 said:

Not in sim at present, and from a realism perspective they don’t beep/buzz/bell in reality.
Stephen Fulcher in post 114233 said:
It’s possible they might in reality beep, some of them on Cornwall have a buzzer on
Does anyone have a definitive answer to this, or know someone who might?

Peter
Having just spoken to the Exmouth Jn signaller (who’s a friend of myself and a number of other members here)

Topsham has a buzzer which sounds when a train is approaching in the up direction, buzzer sounds at the same time as the light Illuminates and CCTV monitor switches itself on. Down direction no buzzer.

Pinhoe has no buzzer/bell etc.

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Close Crossing 24/12/2018 at 21:18 #114264
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Soton_Speed in post 114234 said:
pedroathome in post 113941 said:
Not forgetting that these days, Exton is a request stop, so in realiaty you'd have no idea if a train had called there or not, neither would you know if a train had departed there and waiting at your signal until you got a call.
Does anybody know of a list of request stops between Exmouth and Barnstaple and when they were implemented/withdrawn? Would be useful to amend TT's with the recent request stop enhancement...
Not sure on dates but on the Exmouth line only Exton and Lympstone Commando are currently request stops.

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Close Crossing 08/01/2019 at 18:04 #114636
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pedroathome in post 113941 said:
Albert in post 113939 said:
Please note in this case that Exton station is inside the track circuit used by the 'close crossing' light, you should watch departure times at that station to avoid lowering too early.
Not forgetting that these days, Exton is a request stop, so in realiaty you'd have no idea if a train had called there or not, neither would you know if a train had departed there and waiting at your signal until you got a call.
Of course I was talking about Newcourt, which is not a request stop. My apologies for the confusion.

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