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| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 08:56 #116233 | |
ajax103
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While playing the Edinburgh/North East Scotland session recently I noticed two interesting working I hadn't heard of before which I guess were IC services? 1E28 0940 Glasgow Queen Street to Scarborough 1M94 0840 Edinburgh to Blackpool North Does anyone know what the stopping pattern was for these two services and if there were return workings at all? Also which will help but did Blackpool North/Scarborough see any other IC services and lastly with regards to the Manchester/Liverpool to Glasgow/Edinburgh services were they classed as IC or Regional Railways services? Any help would be great 
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| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 09:17 #116234 | |
Sacro
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The Scarborough service did have a back working, not sure of times or headcodes. They also attempted extending it to Hull via the coast, but then it was too late to get back. Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 09:57 #116235 | |
jc92
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ajax103 in post 116233 said:While playing the Edinburgh/North East Scotland session recently I noticed two interesting working I hadn't heard of before which I guess were IC services?What year? Blackpool used to have regular IC west Coast workings to/from Euston. Scarborough was served by regional railways services. In. The 1991 WTT there's a Stockport to Glasgow working which is IC and the back working runs to Paddington I think. Theres no direct Manchester to Glasgow but if there was in a similar year it would have been RR. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 10:31 #116236 | |
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norman B
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During Glasgow/EdinBurgh holiday weeks services ran to both Scarborough and Blackpool and many of these workings date back to the early post war years.Shown in 1953 Wtt. I/C carried on with these two services well into the 80s with the Blackpool also running during Blackpool Illuminations period too. The Scarborough ran via the East coast calling at Dunbar Newcastle and Darlington with a York reversal.The return working used to dep Scarborough mid morning.In steam days odd services used the Gilling line which bypassed York until it was closed. The only thing I can recall about the Blackpool was during steam days it used to go around the houses at Preston using thr Farringdon curves ,passing through Preston twice within 30 mins. Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 10:36 #116237 | |
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ajax103
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The timetables that were in use for the sessions were 1985.
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| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 11:19 #116238 | |
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norman B
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Was it a Saturday TT or was it a weekday TT?
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| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 11:41 #116239 | |
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norman B
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In 1989 the Glasgow - Scarborough service was still running as an I/C service with 47 haulage to York with a reversal .All during the 89s it dep Glasgow at 0940 with the return leaving Scarborough mid morning. I have a photo of it on July 19th 1989 north of York. Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 12:14 #116240 | |
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ajax103
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norman B in post 116238 said:Was it a Saturday TT or was it a weekday TT?That I don't know, all I know is the timetable is a 1985 based one. norman B in post 116239 said: In 1989 the Glasgow - Scarborough service was still running as an I/C service with 47 haulage to York with a reversal .All during the 89s it dep Glasgow at 0940 with the return leaving Scarborough mid morning.I don't suppose you know what the calling pattern at all? Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 16:12 #116244 | |
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norman B
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I will have a look through some stuff that I have re East Coast during the 80s. If I find anything of interest on this topic I will post Friday. Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 07/03/2019 at 16:52 #116246 | |
Meld
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The timetable is a weekday timetable - with the summer SO services added to spice things up a little (TT Dev prerogative)
Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: norman B, flabberdacks |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 08/03/2019 at 11:24 #116255 | |
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norman B
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Hi, My findings are that the outward stops are Dunbar,Berwick ,Alnmouth Newcastle,Durham, Darlington and York.Scarborough arr mid afternoon. The return called used the same stopping pattern in reverse however I cannot find any accurate timings for this. As a footnote the stopping pattern is the result of combining the stops from two previous services which ran for many ,many years being a Glasgow -York followed 20mins later by the Glasgow - Scarborough. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 08/03/2019 at 15:08 #116256 | |
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ajax103
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norman B in post 116255 said:Hi,So fast between Glasgow and Dunbar? Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 08/03/2019 at 20:13 #116268 | |
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norman B
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No,Just Edinburgh!!! I took that for granted - sorry Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 09/03/2019 at 02:59 #116288 | |
flymo
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The '84/85 Timetable I have shows leaving Glasgow QS at 0835, then; Falkirk High 0853u Edinburgh 0940u Berwick 1031 Newcastle 1135 - 1138 Darlington 1211 - 1213 Scarborough 1356 Not shown as calling at York for pick up or set down. return working at 1520 calling at; Darlington 1658-1659 Newcastle 1740-1743 Berwick 1840 Edinburgh 1947s Falkirk High 2027s Glasgow QS 2053 Not shown as calling at York for pick up or set down. Ran Saturdays only 26 May - 25 August Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 09/03/2019 at 03:11 #116289 | |
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flymo
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The Blackpool service: (Sat only 30 June - 25 August) Edinburgh 0840 Haymarket 0843 Carstairs 0930-0938 Carlisle 1035-1037 Lancaster 1132s Preston 1157s Blackpool North 1234 Can't see any return service but there was also a Glasgow C - Blackpool N and return. EDIT: There was a return service to Edinburgh from Blackpool N at 1428, calling at: Preston 1459u Lancaster 1520u Carlisle 1622 - 1625 Carstairs 1724 Haymarket 1801 Edinburgh 1804 Last edited: 09/03/2019 at 09:02 by flymo Reason: Updated with return service Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 09/03/2019 at 05:41 #116290 | |
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ajax103
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flymo in post 116289 said:The Blackpool service: (Sat only 30 June - 25 August)That's great thank you, I don't suppose it's too much to ask what the stops were on the Glasgow to Blackpool service? Log in to reply |
| 1980s UK InterCity Routes 09/03/2019 at 08:50 #116293 | |
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flymo
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No problem Glasgow C 0830 Kilmarnock 0903 Dumfries 1023 Carlisle 1058 - 1109 Lancaster 1204s Preston 1229s Kirkham & Wesham 1249s Blackpool N 1308 Return at 1440 Kirkham & Wesham 1455u Preston 1514u Lancaster 1534u Carlisle 1642 - 1656 Dumfries 1721 Kilmarnock 1847 Glasgow C 1925 Last edited: 09/03/2019 at 09:03 by flymo Reason: Removed reference to return Edinburgh service Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |