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| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 12:41 #123403 | |
Kimb01996
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there is a forum i posted a couple of years ago in regards to me making a timetable and i believe someone send me a file of all the train lengths ready. just wondering if someone had that handy of if i had to do it on my own i can't remember. the simulation was for Marylebone
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| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 14:32 #123405 | |
Soton_Speed
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SimSig Length Calc V2.4 ?
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| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 17:04 #123408 | |
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Kimb01996
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i'm not sure if it was this or if someone sent me a timetable with all the lengths and stuff or even telling me to copy the lengths from another simulation but i'll have a look thanks anyway
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| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 17:27 #123409 | |
Edgemaster
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The easiest way to do this is to take one of the existing timetables and delete all the trains from it, you'll be left with the stock types configured.
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| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 18:55 #123411 | |
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Kimb01996
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fair enough thought they would be an easier way of doing it
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| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 18:55 #123412 | |
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Kimb01996
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Soton_Speed in post 123405 said:SimSig Length Calc V2.4 ?also can't seem to find class 168 in there is it under something else? Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 24/02/2020 at 19:13 #123414 | |
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Soton_Speed
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Kimb01996 in post 123412 said:Soton_Speed in post 123405 said:One for @HST125Scorton.SimSig Length Calc V2.4 ?also can't seem to find class 168 in there is it under something else? In the mean time here's a more comprehensive multiple unit list from the SimSig manual. In Zone 6, no one can hear you scream... Last edited: 24/02/2020 at 19:13 by Soton_Speed Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Kimb01996 |
| Marylebone 25/02/2020 at 14:07 #123428 | |
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Kimb01996
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thanks for all your help just on final question. how do i find out dwell times for certain trains? eg i'm primarl using class 165, 166, 168, 172, 220, 221 etc
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| Marylebone 25/02/2020 at 17:10 #123430 | |
Steamer
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Kimb01996 in post 123428 said:thanks for all your help just on final question. how do i find out dwell times for certain trains? eg i'm primarl using class 165, 166, 168, 172, 220, 221 etcYou don't have to set those if you don't want to or don't have the information- leave as 00:00:00 and the SimSig default values will be used. As ever, compare to an existing timetable and see if any have been set there. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 25/02/2020 at 19:57 #123435 | |
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v199629
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You can find the dwell times on the Train Planning Rules document which you can download. https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-and-commercial/information-for-operators Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 26/02/2020 at 08:36 #123444 | |
wellgroomed
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One thing to bear in mind is that there is a difference between the timetabled dwell time and the time that train will actually take in the platform. As mentioned already, the Rules of the Plan will give you a good guide of the minimum recommended dwell times in a timetable (usually 30 seconds for DMU stock and 1 minute for traditional loco-hauled stock). However that is flexed depending on loadings, e.g. 1Y10 is a DMU but booked 1 minute in the platform at Bicester Village and High Wycombe by way of example. Many of the services booked to stop at Wembley Stadium during event traffic will have more generous loading/unloading dwell times, e.g. 2/3 minutes. Something that is difficult to reproduce in any simulation is the effect that a delay or cancellation will have on the dwell of the following trains. This can either manifest itself as one extended dwell for the first train after a cancellation, or continuous extended delay at each station en-route resulting in progressive time loss; departing the first station 1 min late, second station 2 mins late, etc. To get the realistic standard dwells, you are more than welcome to use the values shown in the downloadable timetable for Marylebone Oct 15 SX. Happy to help with any further enquiries. Cheers, Greg Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Kimb01996 |
| Marylebone 26/02/2020 at 18:17 #123446 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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One minute at Bicester Village is often insufficient in reality as well
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| Marylebone 26/02/2020 at 19:46 #123449 | |
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Jan
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Steamer in post 123430 said:You don't have to set those if you don't want to or don't have the information- leave as 00:00:00 and the SimSig default values will be used. Although note that the default values for station/terminate reverse are quite a bit on the low side as compared to regular turnaround times for passenger trains. Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 26/02/2020 at 20:48 #123451 | |
postal
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Jan in post 123449 said:Steamer in post 123430 said:. . . and the Rules of the Plan often defines location specific turnaround times much longer than the default times (SimSig default or user-entered in the train type tab) for the particular type of stock.You don't have to set those if you don't want to or don't have the information- leave as 00:00:00 and the SimSig default values will be used. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 26/02/2020 at 21:18 #123452 | |
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Steamer
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postal in post 123451 said:Jan in post 123449 said:On the other hand, if a train arrives at a terminus late, they'll probably get it turned round much faster than the RoTP allowance (where said allowance is greater than 10 minutes).Steamer in post 123430 said:. . . and the Rules of the Plan often defines location specific turnaround times much longer than the default times (SimSig default or user-entered in the train type tab) for the particular type of stock.You don't have to set those if you don't want to or don't have the information- leave as 00:00:00 and the SimSig default values will be used. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 27/02/2020 at 03:16 #123456 | |
GeoffM
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Steamer in post 123452 said:postal in post 123451 said:Indeed, and it can be really quick if another driver "steps up" (arriving driver shuts down cab; departing driver boards and starts setting up; saving the walking time from one end to the other). Saying "a bit on the low side" is really missing the point: no value is ever going to be "right" but at least you have some control over it now.Jan in post 123449 said:On the other hand, if a train arrives at a terminus late, they'll probably get it turned round much faster than the RoTP allowance (where said allowance is greater than 10 minutes).Steamer in post 123430 said:. . . and the Rules of the Plan often defines location specific turnaround times much longer than the default times (SimSig default or user-entered in the train type tab) for the particular type of stock.You don't have to set those if you don't want to or don't have the information- leave as 00:00:00 and the SimSig default values will be used. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Marylebone 27/02/2020 at 09:31 #123457 | |
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Kimb01996
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thanks for that i'll use them
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