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| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 16:01 #129995 | |
bnsf734
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I was playing Plymouth on the multiplayer game last night where we had plenty of late trains. I noticed when a late train terminated in the platforms at Plymouth ready to form a new service it immediately got TRTS fo its new service. Realistically it would need a few minutes to turn round before it was ready to depart. These trains included Cross Countries from Scotland and Paddington services. We were running the 2009 timetable I think. Calvin Log in to reply |
| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 16:09 #129996 | |
elltrain3
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Think all sims do this sadly, sometimes I just hold them in for a minute or two but think its in the sims code that it TRTS straight away as its departure time has passed. and yup groundhog day TT
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| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 16:19 #129997 | |
jc92
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elltrain3 in post 129996 said:Think all sims do this sadly, sometimes I just hold them in for a minute or two but think its in the sims code that it TRTS straight away as its departure time has passed. and yup groundhog day TTThe timetable not the sim code. Authors have an option to add a custom dwell time to each train type which prevents it from being ready for X mins (Station reverse and terminate reverse) if these aren't defined then the train will be ready a lot quicker. I think it's 6-7 mins booked for a HST reversal for instance, although someone on here can confirm or correct me. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 16:59 #130000 | |
GeoffM
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Yes, the TT author can configure the turn-around time. TRTS is given up to a minute early - it does not mean the train is actually ready to go though (!). Platform staff IRL tend to anticipate a train being ready, and I've heard numerous reports of them jabbing the button before the arriving train has even come to a stand!
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| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 18:15 #130002 | |
Meld
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jc92 in post 129997 said:7 mins would be quicker than turning round a Shinkansen at Tokyo (12mins), 2009 planning rules state Plymouth turn rounds as 30 mins for HST and 25 mins for voyagers. Would assume that allows for cleaning and placing seat reservations etc. Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Last edited: 27/07/2020 at 18:15 by Meld Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 18:21 #130003 | |
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geswedey
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I have seen an IEP turn round in 4 minutes at Plymouth, I wanted to catch it and was very impressed Glyn Glyn Calvert ACIRO Log in to reply |
| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 18:22 #130004 | |
lazzer
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jc92 in post 129997 said:I think it's 6-7 mins booked for a HST reversal for instance, although someone on here can confirm or correct me.The bare minimum time required to change ends and set up an HST cab (remember that Western region power cars have ATP so that adds another 90 seconds or so) is seven minutes, and even then that's pushing it. You'd literally be just about ready to go in that time. Some of the HST diagrams I've worked over the years have had eight or nine minutes to change ends, and it's just about enough for the driver to change ends and sort everything out. I remember Paddington to Cheltenham diagrams from 2008 having seven minutes to change ends at Gloucester and it was almost impossible to leave on time. Ten minutes is more comfortable for the driver. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: jc92 |
| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 18:23 #130005 | |
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lazzer
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geswedey in post 130003 said:I have seen an IEP turn round in 4 minutes at Plymouth, I wanted to catch it and was very impressedI'm willing to bet the driver taking it on was already at the other end when it arrived. Even a five-car unit can't be turned round that quickly by one driver. Log in to reply |
| Dwell times at Plymouth 27/07/2020 at 18:24 #130006 | |
Steamer
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Edit: Lazzer posted while I was typing, and gave much better info than I could...
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| Dwell times at Plymouth 28/07/2020 at 05:52 #130050 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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If I remember correctly, there were no dwell times set in at least one of the timetables for Plymouth, but I can’t presently find a ticket number on Mantis. Log in to reply |