Edinburgh v5 issues.

I noticed about two hours ago. so about 9pm that Edinburgh has been released as a loader version. So thank you to the team behind this.

I have noticed a couple of issues with the 2006 tt supplied with the sim.

First issue is 5A41 04:30 Craigentinny - Dundee which reverses in platfrom 1 at Edinburgh Waverley. On changing directions the train stays in the platform but the tt steps to the next location.

Second issue I have just had 5G24 enter at Hilton Junction, I granted the slot then went to set the route from EB674 to EB672 but it is saying route not available.

Sorry to raise these issues but thank you for a wonderful sim.

I see in the wiki v5.2 with a fix for the "route not available" bug was released yesterday, however I've seen no updates in Loader and I still have the issue.

It was actually released, yes? Loader says I have v5.0 of Edinburgh.

manadude2 in post 130091 said:

I see in the wiki v5.2 with a fix for the "route not available" bug was released yesterday, however I've seen no updates in Loader and I still have the issue.

It was actually released, yes? Loader says I have v5.0 of Edinburgh.

Although there was a v5.0 v5.1 should have been the first release but as Hap said I sent it yesterday for upload but then that needs Karl to be around to execute.
Wiki was updated when I sent it in the morning but then you found the Millerhill bug so it was delayed a bit while I fixed that.
Because I already have the latest version of the Sim I'm never quite sure what's been pushed and what's not. Can someone confirm the v numbers for the rest of the McSims? All should be v5.1 (except Cathcart which has not changed), though I'm not sure there was any difference between 5.0 and 5.1 outside of Edinburgh, in most cases, it was really an exercise in consistency.


Peter

manadude2 in post 130091 said:

I see in the wiki v5.2 with a fix for the "route not available" bug was released yesterday, however I've seen no updates in Loader and I still have the issue.

It was actually released, yes? Loader says I have v5.0 of Edinburgh.

Although there was a v5.0 v5.1 should have been the first release but as Hap said I sent it yesterday for upload but then that needs Karl to be around to execute.
Wiki was updated when I sent it in the morning but then you found the Millerhill bug so it was delayed a bit while I fixed that.
Because I already have the latest version of the Sim I'm never quite sure what's been pushed and what's not. Can someone confirm the v numbers for the rest of the McSims? All should be v5.1 (except Cathcart which has not changed), though I'm not sure there was any difference between 5.0 and 5.1 outside of Edinburgh, in most cases, it was really an exercise in consistency.


Peter

Not sure why but I've noticed a few signals that don't display any aspect even if a route is set from them, not sure if it's just me but I found the following signals not to display any aspect at:

EP624 which is the signal protecting the Up Berwick from Powderhall although you can set a route from EP624 to EP618, you don't get any aspect on EP624.

EN583 which is the signal at Carmondean Junction, again you can set a route to Bathgate yard but no aspect is shown on this signal.

EY657 which is the signal starter for the Down Platform Loop, you can set a route to EY661 but no aspect is shown, also EY655 which you have to unlock and use the ground frame to permit a movement to the Up Yard at Dalmeny, I've clicked on EY655 but no aspect seems to be shown.

EV426 which is the signal starter for the Up Platform Loop just past Dalgety Bay, you can set a route to Signal EV412 but no aspect is shown.

EB671 which is the signal at Ladybank Branch Loop which protects the Up/Down Newburgh from the Ladybank Branch Loop, again you can set a route towards Hilton Junction but you don't get any aspect at all.

Not sure why, maybe it's how it's done in real life I don't know. Hopefully someone here can help?

I'm using Loader 5.3, Edinburgh 5.2 and I've started with no timetable and on easy mode.

So my primary question now is this... Do you believe Edinbugger is ready for its first multiplayer session? I haven't been able to play it properly in singleplayer as of yet - it's just too big for me!

Just a bit of a tip on 5A41, I know it's a reported issue that it enters Craigentinny No2 and that it doesn't step up when routed into any platform, indeed it tends to stop at every passing point even with the passing option selected and it doesn't step up oncew it first arrives at Edinburgh Waverley but there is a solution that does work for the default 2006 timetable.

Simply ensure it enters at Craigintenny East Depot and have the next location as Niddre West Junction, yes it means that the reversal at Platform 1/19 isn't done BUT it does step up at each location as it's meant to and reverses correctly on it's next arrival at Edinburgh Waverley, it then carries out the crew change as booked then once it's ready it actually does step up and depart on time.

I don't know the permitted routes in real life nor do I know how often the East Depot Line is used but I just tried the above and it worked as a dream.

I just thought I mention it, by the way if anyone local can advise but how often and are there any restrictions on services using the above line or is it just like Bounds Green has two entrances that can be used?

danners430 in post 130135 said:

So my primary question now is this... Do you believe Edinbugger is ready for its first multiplayer session? I haven't been able to play it properly in singleplayer as of yet - it's just too big for me!

Would be good to have a large McSim chain: hopefully everything would work OK therein.

Dave

DaveHarries in post 130150 said:

danners430 in post 130135 said:

So my primary question now is this... Do you believe Edinbugger is ready for its first multiplayer session? I haven't been able to play it properly in singleplayer as of yet - it's just too big for me!

Would be good to have a large McSim chain: hopefully everything would work OK therein.

Dave

Oh, I've been making plans for a while... Long term plan is to try and squeeze a modern, EGIP, timetable into the old layout that the sim currently uses, but even an older era would be interesting (if hard work)!

Just a bit of a tip on 5A41, I know it's a reported issue that it enters Craigentinny No2 and that it doesn't step up when routed into any platform, indeed it tends to stop at every passing point even with the passing option selected and it doesn't step up oncew it first arrives at Edinburgh Waverley but there is a solution that does work for the default 2006 timetable.

Simply ensure it enters at Craigintenny East Depot and have the next location as Niddre West Junction, yes it means that the reversal at Platform 1/19 isn't done BUT it does step up at each location as it's meant to and reverses correctly on it's next arrival at Edinburgh Waverley, it then carries out the crew change as booked then once it's ready it actually does step up and depart on time.

I don't know the permitted routes in real life nor do I know how often the East Depot Line is used but I just tried the above and it worked as a dream.

I just thought I mention it, by the way if anyone local can advise but how often and are there any restrictions on services using the above line or is it just like Bounds Green has two entrances that can be used?

The east line is used often, BUT, if going around the Sub lines, Diesel only.
One regular use of the East line was to turn HSts at Newcraighall by using the triangle.

Where the hollow track is on sim at the East Line Depot... that hollow spur is the line to the Wheel Lathe and 5 other sidings where XC stable their voyagers. They have to normally run through the depot wash road/slip road and out via roads 1-4. EDB XC crews do sign the sub. IIRC - There would be a 8 car 220 arrive and split. One for Glasgow which was leading, and the other headed down South but had to be turned, so detached and ran round the Sub lines and back in, which in return cleared the platform for another SB service, which I think was a GN.

ajax103 in post 130143 said:

Just a bit of a tip on 5A41, I know it's a reported issue that it enters Craigentinny No2 and that it doesn't step up when routed into any platform, indeed it tends to stop at every passing point even with the passing option selected and it doesn't step up oncew it first arrives at Edinburgh Waverley but there is a solution that does work for the default 2006 timetable.

Simply ensure it enters at Craigintenny East Depot and have the next location as Niddre West Junction, yes it means that the reversal at Platform 1/19 isn't done BUT it does step up at each location as it's meant to and reverses correctly on it's next arrival at Edinburgh Waverley, it then carries out the crew change as booked then once it's ready it actually does step up and depart on time.

I don't know the permitted routes in real life nor do I know how often the East Depot Line is used but I just tried the above and it worked as a dream.

I just thought I mention it, by the way if anyone local can advise but how often and are there any restrictions on services using the above line or is it just like Bounds Green has two entrances that can be used?

Much easier to run it to TT then when ARS sets the route from the first call at the Waverley to Abbeyhill Jn use F2 to abandon the TT; when it reaches Abbeyhill Jn use F2 to reinstate the TT. Everything runs tickety-boo after that.

The east line is used often, BUT, if going around the Sub lines, Diesel only.
One regular use of the East line was to turn HSts at Newcraighall by using the triangle.

Where the hollow track is on sim at the East Line Depot... that hollow spur is the line to the Wheel Lathe and 5 other sidings where XC stable their voyagers. They have to normally run through the depot wash road/slip road and out via roads 1-4. EDB XC crews do sign the sub. IIRC - There would be a 8 car 220 arrive and split. One for Glasgow which was leading, and the other headed down South but had to be turned, so detached and ran round the Sub lines and back in, which in return cleared the platform for another SB service, which I think was a GN.

That's not gonna work. Track layout changes and line speed changes won't give you a decent representation of the current real life line. Also QST platforms aren't as they are now for 380/385s in multiple formations.
Some of these changes are the uplifting of the DGL at Greenhill upper, and a new slip from the main line to the Down Branch/Down Perth. line speed raised.
Larbert Down side lifted and made into a DPL. Up side a CE siding. Colour light signalling on all areas of DBL except the Up home and Down Section.

Since the EMUs have been fully integrated onto the lines they now work, all the timings have been made to take into account 1. DMUs running and 2. HST running.