Edinburgh v5 issues.

MarkC in post 130677 said:

ajax103 in post 130675 said:

I'm currently playing the 1993 timetable and I've observed something that I don't understand when setting a specific route at Edinburgh itself.

This being when you have a train in Platform 17 that is behind E483 and you manually set a onward route either from E483 to E485 to E497 or if you set the route from E485 to E497 first then set the route from E483 to E485, E483 will only show a shunt aspect with E485 showing a full aspect.

However, let ARS set the above route and E483 doesn't show a shunt aspect but rather a full aspect so why is this?

So far from a 00:00 start, I'm now at 17:04 and it happens all the time.

Also when you have services leave Thornton Yard and the loco has to run around it's train if you route the train onto the Down Cowenbeath to ET777 either manually or ARS when the route needs to be set from ET953 (Reverse) to ET777, the signal doesn't clear at all so you have to talk the loco past the signal at danger yet if if you route said train onto the loop and run the loco around it's train then when you set the route from ET953 (Reverse) to ET779 you get a shunt signal aspect.

Why is this?

Platform 17 is an odd on and I am not sure why it does it, but if you click on E483 to signal E495 or E497 or E499 (missing out Signal E485) you then get Proceed aspectcs on the main signal not the shunt.

I always thought you had to set the signal from E483 to E485 to E495 etc otherwise isn't the driver passing E485 at danger? Apologies if it sounds wrong but that's how I thought it was done?

I be interested to hear why that's not the case though?

MarkC in post 130677 said:

ajax103 in post 130675 said:

I'm currently playing the 1993 timetable and I've observed something that I don't understand when setting a specific route at Edinburgh itself.

This being when you have a train in Platform 17 that is behind E483 and you manually set a onward route either from E483 to E485 to E497 or if you set the route from E485 to E497 first then set the route from E483 to E485, E483 will only show a shunt aspect with E485 showing a full aspect.

However, let ARS set the above route and E483 doesn't show a shunt aspect but rather a full aspect so why is this?

So far from a 00:00 start, I'm now at 17:04 and it happens all the time.

Also when you have services leave Thornton Yard and the loco has to run around it's train if you route the train onto the Down Cowenbeath to ET777 either manually or ARS when the route needs to be set from ET953 (Reverse) to ET777, the signal doesn't clear at all so you have to talk the loco past the signal at danger yet if if you route said train onto the loop and run the loco around it's train then when you set the route from ET953 (Reverse) to ET779 you get a shunt signal aspect.

Why is this?

Platform 17 is an odd on and I am not sure why it does it, but if you click on E483 to signal E495 or E497 or E499 (missing out Signal E485) you then get Proceed aspectcs on the main signal not the shunt.

I always thought you had to set the signal from E483 to E485 to E495 etc otherwise isn't the driver passing E485 at danger? Apologies if it sounds wrong but that's how I thought it was done?

I be interested to hear why that's not the case though?

I feel like it's more the driver advising you that they will go early if you signal them to go, in SimSig speak

My question is this. In real life, would drivers phone the signaller to ask for an early departure, or would they sit and wait for the booked departure time, which I presume they are aware of, and perhaps pass the time of day with a cup of tea which they might have in a flask, or wouldn’t tea drinking be allowed.

MarkC in post 130677 said:

ajax103 in post 130675 said:

I'm currently playing the 1993 timetable and I've observed something that I don't understand when setting a specific route at Edinburgh itself.

This being when you have a train in Platform 17 that is behind E483 and you manually set a onward route either from E483 to E485 to E497 or if you set the route from E485 to E497 first then set the route from E483 to E485, E483 will only show a shunt aspect with E485 showing a full aspect.

However, let ARS set the above route and E483 doesn't show a shunt aspect but rather a full aspect so why is this?

So far from a 00:00 start, I'm now at 17:04 and it happens all the time.

Also when you have services leave Thornton Yard and the loco has to run around it's train if you route the train onto the Down Cowenbeath to ET777 either manually or ARS when the route needs to be set from ET953 (Reverse) to ET777, the signal doesn't clear at all so you have to talk the loco past the signal at danger yet if if you route said train onto the loop and run the loco around it's train then when you set the route from ET953 (Reverse) to ET779 you get a shunt signal aspect.

Why is this?

Platform 17 is an odd on and I am not sure why it does it, but if you click on E483 to signal E495 or E497 or E499 (missing out Signal E485) you then get Proceed aspectcs on the main signal not the shunt.

I always thought you had to set the signal from E483 to E485 to E495 etc otherwise isn't the driver passing E485 at danger? Apologies if it sounds wrong but that's how I thought it was done?

I be interested to hear why that's not the case though?

Also when you have services leave Thornton Yard and the loco has to run around it's train if you route the train onto the Down Cowenbeath to ET777 either manually or ARS when the route needs to be set from ET953 (Reverse) to ET777, the signal doesn't clear at all so you have to talk the loco past the signal at danger yet if if you route said train onto the loop and run the loco around it's train then when you set the route from ET953 (Reverse) to ET779 you get a shunt signal aspect.

bugsy in post 130683 said:

My question is this. In real life, would drivers phone the signaller to ask for an early departure, or would they sit and wait for the booked departure time, which I presume they are aware of, and perhaps pass the time of day with a cup of tea which they might have in a flask, or wouldn’t tea drinking be allowed.

It's the railway, tea drinking is compulsory.

The class 66s have a hotplate and everything.