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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 12:46 #130064 | |
MrSuttonmann
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I have a queue building on Millerhill Goods Down. 6S30 seems to be stuck at M16. Has the signaller gone to sleep? Save attached. 
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 13:18 #130066 | |
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MrSuttonmann
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I had to end up removing the train. The queue cleared itself.
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 13:23 #130068 | |
Hap
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Have you got a snap shot from about 0540/0550?
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 14:14 #130072 | |
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MrSuttonmann
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Hap in post 130068 said:Have you got a snap shot from about 0540/0550?Nearest I have is at 0600, or 0529. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. (Formerly known as manadude2) Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 14:35 #130074 | |
Peter Bennet
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This was something I thought I'd fixed to do with trains running too close behind each other. I'll have a look later. (thought bubble) **Wonder if I can reset the Sim size in a .ssg to expose the debug area?** . Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: MrSuttonmann |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 16:14 #130076 | |
pedroathome
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Peter Bennet in post 130074 said:Unzip the SSG, in the text file, look for Height and Width, and increment, and then rezip Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 18:00 #130080 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Series of coincidences related to the fact that you diverted a train through Millerhill which caused the hidden point for the yard to be locked at precisely the moment the route was called and as it was not available that was that. If the diverted train had hoved off a couple of seconds earlier it'd have worked - not sure I'd ever worked that one out without the save and even then it took a couple of runs to get it. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 28/07/2020 at 20:27 #130085 | |
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MrSuttonmann
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Peter Bennet in post 130080 said:Series of coincidences related to the fact that you diverted a train through Millerhill which caused the hidden point for the yard to be locked at precisely the moment the route was called and as it was not available that was that. If the diverted train had hoved off a couple of seconds earlier it'd have worked - not sure I'd ever worked that one out without the save and even then it took a couple of runs to get it.Well done Peter! It takes a keen eye 
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 29/07/2020 at 22:46 #130147 | |
peterb
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Would be interested if the OP can relate to this - In this attached save, 6E40 has been diverted because of the Musselburgh block. I definitely called in for permission, however: 04:23:15 Millerhill not advised of 6E40, dalays may occur 04:23:59 6E40 waiting at red signal MHU 04:25:20 6E40 waiting at red signal MHU 04:26:14 6E40 waiting at red signal MHU 04:26:51 6E40 received an adverse change of aspect at signal MHU 04:31:35 6E40 waiting at red signal MHU I've also rung in for 6S62, a down diversion - but there's no confirmation of either train in the message window. 6S62 also gets stuck at M16. Think the best option for both is sadly to remove. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 29/07/2020 at 23:00 by peterb Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 30/07/2020 at 07:48 #130162 | |
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Peter Bennet
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peterb in post 130147 said:Would be interested if the OP can relate to this -A direct consequence of the fix to the first report. May take a few days as I'll maybe have to rewrite. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 30/07/2020 at 08:22 #130163 | |
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MrSuttonmann
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Actually Peter, I do remember when I sent the diverted train which caused this bug, Millerhill had complained that I'd not notified them of the train, but I had previously called to notify them. One thing to note, I entered the headcode in lowercase. Not sure if it's relevant? (Formerly known as manadude2) Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 30/07/2020 at 08:26 #130164 | |
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peterb
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manadude2 in post 130163 said:Peter - likewise. When I sent subsequent trains to M'hill from both directions I made sure the headcode was uppercase - and did not get a complaint on these occasions (but the trains still got stuck at MHU/M16) Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 30/07/2020 at 10:06 #130165 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Two separate issues, the phone call just determines the length of delay in passing the train through. The Uppercase thing is correct, but I have a fix to removes case sensitivity. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: MrSuttonmann |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 14/11/2020 at 18:11 #133860 | |
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MisterH
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I am having a similar problem with Millerhill and have tried several variations to get through Millerhill. The background is a simulation issued closure of both lines at Musselburgh. The first train affected was 6B41 from Powderhall which appeared at the Monktonhall side with no problems. After this I have had problems with trains from either side and have just tried running one train and holding any others. I routed 1E05 via Newcraighall, telephoning to notify Millerheil, and the used the "running trains" screen to monitor progress. Having left the sim it the stops at signal MYD. After a couple of minutes I received a phone call from the train asking for permission to pass the signal at danger. This is not something I was expecting as this is an off sim signal. However, I told the train to pass the signal and continued to watch progress. (During this period I am getting calls from delayed trains which are told to call back in 15 mins). 1E05 increases speed but then just disappears from the list. On previous attempts I have had 1S01, entering from the opposite side of Millerhill ( for this I had to remove the previously terminated 6B58 which appeared to be blocking entry), also disappearing from the list. Any suggestions for procedures and timings to enable me to get diverted services through Millerhill.
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 14/11/2020 at 19:46 #133865 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Can you upload a save so I can interrogate it. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 15/11/2020 at 20:13 #133895 | |
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MisterH
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This is the situation as 6B41 exits Millerhill.
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 16/11/2020 at 17:36 #133910 | |
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Peter Bennet
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For some reason, I can't open up this file. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 16/11/2020 at 17:39 #133911 | |
GeoffM
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Peter Bennet in post 133910 said:For some reason, I can't open up this file.It appears to be the very old and very obsolete binary type save file. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 16/11/2020 at 19:06 #133917 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Yes, it's a save from the .exe. Timetable: Edinburgh August 2006 v3.238.3 (0445 start) to be precise. MisterH - you will need to update to the loader version. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 17/11/2020 at 15:04 #133935 | |
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MisterH
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I have had this simulation for some time and for some reason (that would be me then) it is installed into a different location than my loader sims. Can you tell me the best way to update it to the loader version? If I try to update via the loader it tells me I do not have a licence. Do I simply relocate the files to the correct directory or do I need to do some fiddling?
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 17/11/2020 at 15:21 #133938 | |
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JamesN
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The newer versions - since 2013/2014? - of Edinburgh have been licensed/payware sims. Originally these were standalone .exe sims, but have been recently further upgraded to use the loader this year. If you have already purchased a license then the sim should install automatically into the loader. Make sure you’re logged in in the loader with the correct credentials and it will allow you to run the sim. If you’re using a version from before that upgrade then it sounds I’m afraid as if you’d first need to purchase a license to use it. It can be run in demo mode for a short period of you wish to try before you buy. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: TUT |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 17/11/2020 at 18:51 #133947 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Looks like he has a license so it's just a matter of going through the loader process. Sounds like loader is installed and working - suspect it's just a matter of logging in to it and maybe running an update if necessary, but that should be prompted. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 17/11/2020 at 19:21 #133949 | |
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Albert
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That version was already a payware edition - the free one is even older according to the wiki. I also still have it installed and can confirm the Loader leaves it in place when you install the new one. You can safely uninstall it from the Start Menu > Settings > Apps (for Windows 10) and use the Loader instead.
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 17/11/2020 at 20:44 #133951 | |
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MisterH
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The version I have is an old paid for version. Is there a way that I can associate the license from the original version to the loader version?
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| Queue building at Millerhill (Signaller gone to sleep?) 17/11/2020 at 21:14 #133952 | |
Steamer
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Are you on Version 5.8 of the Loader?
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