1A53 wrong route not queried by driver

+1 for this. Great idea. I wish this happened for signals put back in front of drivers as well. I know SimSig doesn't support accidents, but the route would still be locked so it wouldn't be unsafe, while still penalising the signaller for making the error.

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Now generally where a junction is of similar speeds (so no FY aspects) is it not likely that by the time the driver sees the wrong route it will be too late to stop ?

Yes - a friend who drives for TPE tells me that Micklefield and Colton junctions on the York ROC panels are high risk for this, Colton in particular as its 125mph for both routes.

postal in post 136031 said:

bill_gensheet in post 136030 said:

Now generally where a junction is of similar speeds (so no FY aspects) is it not likely that by the time the driver sees the wrong route it will be too late to stop ?

Now that would be an evil addition to the core code! Where the train would be expected to stop before the signal, allow a wrong route call from the signal but where the train would overshoot, stop the train at the next signal after the junction for the wrong route call.

Already on my list: Mantis 3697.

clive in post 136039 said:

postal in post 136031 said:

bill_gensheet in post 136030 said:

Now generally where a junction is of similar speeds (so no FY aspects) is it not likely that by the time the driver sees the wrong route it will be too late to stop ?

Now that would be an evil addition to the core code! Where the train would be expected to stop before the signal, allow a wrong route call from the signal but where the train would overshoot, stop the train at the next signal after the junction for the wrong route call.

Already on my list: Mantis 3697.

I'm not in favour of allowing a train to go beyond the point (sorry) of no return as that involves rules for setting back that the average user is not going to know (and likely varies per area). What I am in favour of is coming to a stand at the junction signal with normal braking and then imposing a time penalty before the train will move again. In addition, throwing back a signal where otherwise the routes set were appropriate for the train, again I'm okay with the train sliding past the offending signal, braking to a stand, and doing what it does now (time penalty while it calls control).

Whilst thinking about this topic, I decided to do a bit of digging on YouTube and found a train driver's VLOG in which he describes an occasion when he actually took a wrong route, realised it, phoned the signaller to advise him and ask for instructions. He had to reverse his train to an appropriate location where he could be directed onto the correct route. He was driving an EMU and had to undertake what he described as "the walk of shame". Twice!

I wonder if any of the drivers on this forum would admit that they've had to do this :D

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Now generally where a junction is of similar speeds (so no FY aspects) is it not likely that by the time the driver sees the wrong route it will be too late to stop ?

Yes - a friend who drives for TPE tells me that Micklefield and Colton junctions on the York ROC panels are high risk for this, Colton in particular as its 125mph for both routes.

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