1R72 delayed at Falkirk High, but for how long?

Did you cause an ACOA by also putting the signal back on it without permission or outside of the 5 minute limit? There was a recent thread where this happened and the two phone calls raced each other resulting in a train sitting delayed for hours.

Did you cause an ACOA by also putting the signal back on it without permission or outside of the 5 minute limit? There was a recent thread where this happened and the two phone calls raced each other resulting in a train sitting delayed for hours.

Then I got a message for the driver to speak to control before moving, followed by advice that the driver was on the telephone.

jc92 in post 136237 said:

Did you cause an ACOA by also putting the signal back on it without permission or outside of the 5 minute limit? There was a recent thread where this happened and the two phone calls raced each other resulting in a train sitting delayed for hours.

Correction, no, that was not the cause of that other thread. Only something done later on in an attempt to get the train moving.
Thread link: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/52669

As usual with issues, it'd be helpful if you attached a savegame!

Sorry, but I didn't think that it would be necessary. However, I've attached a save at 14:40

If a train hangs around too long, I set the train without a timetable to get it on the move then I reset the same timetable and edit its next stop point. Its a cheat but life is too short to get a train to gum up the works.

bugsy in post 136241 said:

Sorry, but I didn't think that it would be necessary. However, I've attached a save at 14:40

It may also help if you've got the snapshot at 14:00

There's something odd going on here as very shortly after the call about 1R72 being ready to depart, I got another call saying that if had an Adverse Change of Aspect. Maybe I missed something.

Anyway, I'm going to play it through from 13:50 and watch very closely. Will post my findings.

Do you remember what the aspect was when the driver called you to report the delay? Was it red, or was it a proceed aspect? If the latter, which of the two answers did you give him?

It does sound like he received an ACOA from G to YY if the signals at Polmont were replaced. Otherwise you wouldn't get a control phone call.

jc92 in post 136244 said:

It does sound like he received an ACOA from G to YY if the signals at Polmont were replaced. Otherwise you wouldn't get a control phone call.

Yep. Played it through again and that's what I must have done to allow one or both of two trains that I didn't want to delay. I looked at signals 504 and 508 and forgot that cancelling 508 would also cause 504 to revert to red.

Once again, sorry to have reported something that was my mistake all along

bugsy in post 136262 said:

jc92 in post 136244 said:

It does sound like he received an ACOA from G to YY if the signals at Polmont were replaced. Otherwise you wouldn't get a control phone call.

Yep. Played it through again and that's what I must have done to allow one or both of two trains that I didn't want to delay. I looked at signals 504 and 508 and forgot that cancelling 508 would also cause 504 to revert to red.

Once again, sorry to have reported something that was my mistake all along

It's not entirely your mistake, because even if you did cause the ACOA, a train should not get stuck, but instead finish the delay and then report the ACOA.