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| Lost My Levers! 16/04/2021 at 17:53 #138697 | |
andyallen4014
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Moderator Note - Windows update KB5001337 caused a loss of levers in ground frame windows, this also affected other programs and wasn't confined to SimSig. Windows Update 20H2 for Windows 10 fixes this issue, if you are experiencing it we recommend you update to the latest version of Windows 10. Reopened a save game and had the misfortune of having to operate the ground frame, but alas, the levers have gone... 
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| Lost My Levers! 16/04/2021 at 18:38 #138699 | |
GeoffM
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That's... quite impressive! I'm not sure I could program that if I tried. Computing 101 solution: have you tried turning it off and back on again? SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 16/04/2021 at 18:58 #138700 | |
jrr
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Reminds me of when I lost control of a third of the frame (heritage railway). Did what was needed: urgent phone call to duty S&T and worked round as best I could until it was sorted (a degraded low voltage cable). IIRC this may have included clamping one crossover. Temporary fix didn't take long once problem diagnosed. Permanent solution 2 or 3 hours later.
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| Lost My Levers! 16/04/2021 at 18:58 #138701 | |
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andyallen4014
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GeoffM in post 138699 said:That's... quite impressive! I'm not sure I could program that if I tried.Haha, I haven't actually, I was just quite shocked. I'm running a multiplayer chain so opted to continue for now rather than disrupt everyone's game when I can live without it. However I have noticed all my sliders in F3 have disappeared in all of the sims, so must just be a glitch! User | Multiplayer Host | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 19:57 #138778 | |
colliea
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I've had the same issue running Westbury. Thought it was odd, so restarted the sim but same issue.  Seems to have happened in the last few days, as it was working OK last week.  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 20:04 #138780 | |
Peter Bennet
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colliea in post 138778 said:I've had the same issue running Westbury. Thought it was odd, so restarted the sim but same issue.Whether relevant or not I don't know but that's not the latest version of Westbury as released the other day. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 20:10 #138781 | |
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colliea
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Ah could be the issue. I'll try an update and see if it corrects things. Thanks Peter.
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| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 20:15 #138782 | |
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colliea
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Sadly still the same :( Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 20:37 #138783 | |
jc92
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Does it happen on a fresh copy of the sim? If not I suspect its just a result of updating to the new loader which happens occasionally.
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| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:00 #138784 | |
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Peter Bennet
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colliea in post 138782 said:Sadly still the same :(Is that a save or a new run? If it's a save then it's very common for them to be incompatible with updates. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:07 #138785 | |
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colliea
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It was a saved version but just launched a new game rather than loading an old one and its still the same
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| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:15 #138786 | |
Steamer
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colliea in post 138785 said:It was a saved version but just launched a new game rather than loading an old one and its still the same :(Please could click on the menu to the left of the clock, and go to Help-> About, then click the technical info tab. Copy the information that's in the window and post it here, it may help narrow down why it's only affecting certain users (it works fine for me). "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:26 #138787 | |
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colliea
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The technical info is: OS: Windows 10 Home 64bit Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.15; Sim: Simulation Westbury; data version 4.4 License: TT: Westbury Summer 2007 v4.0 v0.0.0 TT filename: Westbury Summer 2007.WTT TT merged: False Sim upgrade: False Loader upgrade: False Save reloaded: False NPERFECT active at start NBEGINNER choice 1 NSTANDARD choice 2 NWESTAVOID choice 3 NSTORM choice 4  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:27 #138788 | |
Meld
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Peter Bennet in post 138780 said:colliea in post 138778 said:It wouldn't be the updated Westbury as the original post was made hours before the update was releasedI've had the same issue running Westbury. Thought it was odd, so restarted the sim but same issue.Whether relevant or not I don't know but that's not the latest version of Westbury as released the other day. Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:38 #138789 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Interesting, I've just tried several Sims myself and while I have the levers they will not move. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:41 #138790 | |
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jc92
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I've been running a Carlisle game which was started prior to the update and has continued fine with all ground frames operating as expected so this is a curious issue.
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| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:48 #138791 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Could it be Windows related, I had an update a few days ago? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:51 #138792 | |
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colliea
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Could be. I had an update a couple of days ago, so would tie in to when things stopped working. I've tried a couple of other sims and same issue. This image is Saltley.  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:53 #138793 | |
welshdave257
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Peter Bennet in post 138791 said:Could it be Windows related, I had an update a few days ago?I could run a little experiment if you want. I have a Windows Update waiting to install right now. I find the updates intrusive so I never set them to automatic. I've checked Westbury and the GF that colliea is having issues with. So far, it's working fine for me. After the SimSig update recently. I've operated the GF in the screenshot.  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 21:59 #138794 | |
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Meld
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I had a windows update earlier this week Loader 5.15 Westbury 4.4   Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 22:13 #138795 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Meld in post 138794 said:I had a windows update earlier this weekAnd do they work? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 22:33 #138796 | |
headshot119
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To assist in diagnosing the issue... It would assist us greatly given the seemingly random nature of the issue, if people could use the "Hamburger > Help > About > Technical Info > Copy" feature in loader 5.15 and paste the information to this thread with a quick note about whether the ground frames work for you or not. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 22:34 #138797 | |
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welshdave257
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GF WORKS OS: Windows 10 Home 64bit Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.15; Sim: Simulation Westbury; data version 4.4 License: TT: None v0.0.0 TT filename: TT merged: False Sim upgrade: False Loader upgrade: False Save reloaded: False NPERFECT active at start NBEGINNER choice 1 NSTANDARD choice 2 NWESTAVOID choice 3 NSTORM choice 4 Last edited: 18/04/2021 at 22:36 by welshdave257 Reason: Previous tech info was for Port Talbot. Log in to reply |
| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 22:48 #138799 | |
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headshot119
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I've also opened Mantis 33483 to investigate the issue.
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| Lost My Levers! 18/04/2021 at 22:51 #138800 | |
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Meld
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Sorry - Peter yes they do - after remembering to request the frame 
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