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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 08/07/2021 at 00:08 #140452
Guts
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604 posts 		I'm running KX, Peterborough and Donny South chained.

I missed the first opportunity to save the game so I've saved it now.

In both occasions I have sent Freights UP Fast towards KX and a duplicate appears on KX as an undescribed train.

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.16; Sim: Simulation King's Cross; data version 3.8
License:
TT: King's Cross 2009-10-15 SX v5.0.0
TT filename: King's Cross 2009-10-15 SX.WTT
TT merged: False
Sim upgrade: False
Loader upgrade: False
Save reloaded: False
NNORMAL active at start
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NNONE active at start
NKNEBWORTH choice 1
NINCIDENT choice 2
NWELWYN choice 3
NFINSBURY choice 4
NPLAT9 choice 5
NGASWORKS choice 6


OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.16; Sim: Simulation Peterborough; data version 4.7
License:
TT: Peterborough 2009-10-15 SX No BiDi v5.0.0
TT filename: Peterborough 2009-10-15 SX No BiDi.WTT
TT merged: False
Sim upgrade: False
Loader upgrade: False
Save reloaded: False
NORMAL active at start
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NSLOWS_ONLY choice 2
NNEUS_CLOSE choice 3
NRAND_CLOSE choice 4
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NLXRU choice 2
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 08/07/2021 at 01:09 #140453
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1048 posts 		Is the train in question 6O35 only or has there been other instances?
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 08/07/2021 at 05:07 #140454
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3997 posts 		Does the KX TT make use of the Sandy entry point in place of the Biggleswade one? If so, see here: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/53148
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 08/07/2021 at 08:48 #140455
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604 posts 		Hap in post 140453 said:
Is the train in question 6O35 only or has there been other instances?
It also happened with 4O19.
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 08/07/2021 at 08:50 #140456
Guts
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604 posts 		Steamer in post 140454 said:
Does the KX TT make use of the Sandy entry point in place of the Biggleswade one? If so, see here: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/53148
This sounds about right. Is there any way of fixing it??
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 08/07/2021 at 08:55 #140457
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1048 posts 		Guts in post 140456 said:
Steamer in post 140454 said:
Does the KX TT make use of the Sandy entry point in place of the Biggleswade one? If so, see here: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/53148
This sounds about right. Is there any way of fixing it??
Note added on mantis ticket. #33753
How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 09/07/2021 at 09:05 #140487
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604 posts 		UPDATE

I changed the entry points from Sandy to Biggleswade, and the repeat entries don't occur.

Obviously there's an issue with the Sandy entry points
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 18/07/2021 at 20:38 #140645
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Online 		Can confirm that changing the entry point on the timetable from Sandy to Biggleswade has solved the issue for the 2009 TT.

I had a look at some more recent TTs and similar trains all use Biggleswade as their entry point, so a simple change to the train TTs in the 2009 TT should solve it.
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 18/07/2021 at 21:17 #140648
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1111 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 140645 said:
Can confirm that changing the entry point on the timetable from Sandy to Biggleswade has solved the issue for the 2009 TT.

I had a look at some more recent TTs and similar trains all use Biggleswade as their entry point, so a simple change to the train TTs in the 2009 TT should solve it.
Any TT update WILL undo all the changes you've made, KGX is being fixed and I will not at this moment in time be changing entry points as the fixes should stop the duplicates entering
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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 19/07/2021 at 10:27 #140652
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1431 posts 		If you need it fixed before the update then rename it (in the F4 editor first) and *then* 'Save As ...'
That would be safe against a timetable update coming before the sim update if that were to happen.

Once sim is updated you can then delete your patched version and go back to the official timetable.

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Peterborough creating duplicate trains when chained 19/07/2021 at 12:01 #140653
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Online 		bill_gensheet in post 140652 said:
If you need it fixed before the update then rename it (in the F4 editor first) and *then* 'Save As ...'
That would be safe against a timetable update coming before the sim update if that were to happen.

Once sim is updated you can then delete your patched version and go back to the official timetable.

Bill
That was in fact my intended course of action
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