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Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 09/01/2023 at 22:23 #150094 | |
DonRiver
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Sorry, can't post on the original thread because it's "locked due to age". The 2Mxx trains northbound are scheduled to stop at North Pole Jn - was wondering if this is accurate? ![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. (named for the one in Tasmania, not in Russia) Log in to reply |
Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 09/01/2023 at 22:33 #150095 | |
JamesN
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Yes, they stop to change power supply from DC to/from AC
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Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 09/01/2023 at 22:34 #150096 | |
rodney30
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they normally change from DC to AC there. and vice versa going the other way.
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Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 09/01/2023 at 23:22 #150097 | |
9pN1SEAp
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Going North, pick up your shoes. Going South, drop the pants. Jamie S (JAMS) Log in to reply |
Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 10/01/2023 at 17:31 #150108 | |
mfcooper
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(The following is likely different compared to 2009. I do not know when it came into force.) At some point, a selection of traction was given authority to do this AC/DC changeover on the move (if the train has a proceed signal aspect). I believe only Class 378 Electrostar units (as currently used by London Overground) and Class 92 locos have this permission. Southern's class 377 Electrostar fleet did not have this authorisation, so still had to come to a stand before doing the changeover. I do not know if this has changed in recent years, but considering that current London Overground train schedules to not have a stop at North Pole Jn in their timetables yet Southern do, I must assume that 377s never got the authorisation. Last edited: 10/01/2023 at 17:34 by mfcooper Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 10/01/2023 at 18:02 #150109 | |
Dionysusnu
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As per the 2022 Sectional Appendix, Local Instructions: Quote: Pantograph on the move procedure Log in to reply |
Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 10/01/2023 at 22:36 #150112 | |
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mfcooper in post 150108 said:(The following is likely different compared to 2009. I do not know when it came into force.)So what happened was all units had the authority to changeover on the move, but a number of Southern services kept passing the changeover point without changing over, driver error. Funnily the 378's was the opposite. 3 different drivers stopped at the changeover point BUT did something unsafe in genuine error. No one was hurt or injured. To stop any further instances they now do it on the move. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DonRiver |
Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 11/01/2023 at 01:55 #150114 | |
DonRiver
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Thanks folks. In the 2009 timetable the West London Line trains are mostly 313s... I guess they never changed on the move at any point in their dual-voltage careers.
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Victoria Central 2009-10-15 SX v5.2 - 2Mxx stop at North Pole Jn? 11/01/2023 at 02:37 #150115 | |
JamesN
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DonRiver in post 150114 said:Thanks folks. In the 2009 timetable the West London Line trains are mostly 313s... I guess they never changed on the move at any point in their dual-voltage careers.313s had to do it static; as did the 350/1s covering Southern WLL services in the 2009 TT. While a few (then 3 car) 378s had entered service by the time of the Oct-2009 timetable; as far as our research at the time went at the time they were not conducting moving changeovers at that time. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DonRiver |