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XC 170/3's 22/07/2023 at 15:53 #152416
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Hi,

On the old Wikipedia 170397-170398 are described as 2-car (DMCL+DMSL) formation, but Rolling Stock Review 2019 describes them as having Motor Standard in the middle of a 3-car consist.

Can anyone advise, were these ever shortened and lengthened, if so when please?

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Jamie

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XC 170/3's 22/07/2023 at 16:41 #152417
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They're a mix within subclass (unless anythings changed recently). The TPE ones were 2 car, but XC ones are 3 car for instance. I dont think subclass defined the units formation but it's interior fittings and layout.

The TPE ones went to Chiltern. XC still have theirs.

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XC 170/3's 22/07/2023 at 19:20 #152419
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jc92 in post 152417 said:
I dont think subclass defined the units formation but it's interior fittings and layout.
I agree. Anglia Railways when they ordered class 170's they got in the first batch 170/2 170201-208 which were 3 car units, then a couple of years later they ordered a second batch which were also 170/2's 170270-273 but were 2 car units

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XC 170/3's 22/07/2023 at 20:32 #152423
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yeah XC extended them to provide longer services on mainly Cardiff-Nottingham/Birmingham
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XC 170/3's 23/07/2023 at 12:28 #152425
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Thanks all.

Looks like I misread the Wiki entry, it does say 3 units, I saw the "2" in the "number of trainsets" column!

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Jamie

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XC 170/3's 23/07/2023 at 14:59 #152428
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All those units that you mention are now in service with EMR. They came to them from TFW, is whose livery they ran, but with EMR branding. They are all now in EMR livery.
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