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| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 17:45 #152523 | |
bill_gensheet
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9pN1SEAp in post 152521 said:A 00:00:00 as the specific time should result in a sensible default time. That default though has a longstanding bug IIRC Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 17:45 #152524 | |
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9pN1SEAp in post 152521 said:Hi,- The Sprinter types have very short join/detach dwell times, not long enough to do a proper brake test. I'm still working on timings regarding unit as it varies per rules etc. - The Sprinter types also have no Terminate Forward or terminate Reverse dwell times set, so a late runner would be TRTS as soon as it arrives. I don't use these oddly but I can see where your coming from. - Would the Scots Guardsman use primary or secondary linespeed? It's been set to "Use Freight linespeed". This would be secondary speed [white speed signs]. - Were 1S01 and 1M04 really dusty bins not 325's? Used by Varamis Rail eg 321334. - Should the 325's have "Use freight linespeed"? This shouldn't be applied. - Most of the freight has medium braking capability, rather than low? Modern day freight locos can gather speed quicker than previous. Carlisle Sim I don't use due to limitations on the sim quite along time ago with gradients. - Class 158 3-car - should this be 69m not 70m, as all other types are multiples of 23m? Correct these are 70m units. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Last edited: 30/07/2023 at 17:47 by HST125Scorton Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 18:46 #152526 | |
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5C50 forms 1C51 at Manchester Airport (the TT is correct, just the headcode - both myself and the signallers have made the same error!) All Northern ECS from the MID should enter at WL3 (and leave, but that's not possible to set) There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Last edited: 30/07/2023 at 18:49 by Splodge Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 18:56 #152527 | |
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Splodge in post 152518 said:The 5J** services from Piccadilly to Newton Heath via Ashburys need to route via Ashburys Arr/Dep, there is no route to Phillips Park from the Up East/Up MainThe same applies in reverse as well, trains from Newton Heath which reverse at Ashburys ordinarily reverse in the back platform and get regulated in the Arr/Dep line - although a reversal on the Down Main in the platform at Ashburys is now possible but I've never done it There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 19:07 #152528 | |
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HST125Scorton in post 152516 said:i26 in post 152515 said:5P61 Has multiple platform clashes. Wants Manchester Picc P14 from 0657 - 0710 whilst 1P63, 1N53 and potentially others want to use the platform at the same time.All above issues all fixed, 5P61 I have now fixed should of used plat 8 for them times then to Mayfield before Picc P14 at 0740. Upon further inspection it is not possible to get to Mayfield Loop from P8.  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. 
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 19:24 #152531 | |
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i26 in post 152528 said:HST125Scorton in post 152516 said:You can blame Milton Keynes for that one, that was the booked move 8 to Mayfield. In reality there's no need for it to come into the main shed and it just goes direct into Mayfield loop from Ardwick and waits time before going into 14 or 13.i26 in post 152515 said:5P61 Has multiple platform clashes. Wants Manchester Picc P14 from 0657 - 0710 whilst 1P63, 1N53 and potentially others want to use the platform at the same time.All above issues all fixed, 5P61 I have now fixed should of used plat 8 for them times then to Mayfield before Picc P14 at 0740. You can even see that's what happened on the day in the link to Charlie Woodhouse, the times at Piccadilly are the same for both times it arrives. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following users said thank you: HST125Scorton, i26 |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 19:39 #152532 | |
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Thank you, I'll duly sort 5P61 shortly. 5C51/1C51 also fixed. Will work on the Northern stock moves via Arr/Dep Lines soon. Noted all units at WL3 for Northern.
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 19:46 #152534 | |
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HST125Scorton in post 152532 said:Thank you, I'll duly sort 5P61 shortly. 5C51/1C51 also fixed. Will work on the Northern stock moves via Arr/Dep Lines soon. Noted all units at WL3 for Northern.The units arrive as 5C50 and depart as 1C51 so it's already half right; why it's been planned like that I don't know! There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 19:55 #152535 | |
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I'm sure 5C50 used to split into two services. 1C50 & 1C51. Maybe before the Pandemic ever since I've only seen 5C50 to 1C51. Even the LTPs show it. Confuses me!. http://charlwoodhouse.co.uk/rail/livetrain/$30940290/28/06/23 Ignore links there there to aid me later to make changes. 
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 20:06 #152536 | |
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Splodge
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Ah, could be a hangover from earlier WTTs but at the moment it definitely doesn't (I've done the job loads, and do it again on Wednesday!)
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 20:16 #152537 | |
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9pN1SEAp in post 152521 said:- Class 158 3-car - should this be 69m not 70m, as all other types are multiples of 23m?The smallest length SimSig will recognise is 1 metre. If you have a unit made up of three cars each 23.2 metres long, then 1 car is 23.2 metres which SimSig rounds down to 23 metres, 2 cars are 46.4 metres long which SimSig rounds down to 46 metres and three cars are 69.6 metres long which SimSig rounds up to 70 metres (i.e. rounding to 1 metre longer than the 3 cars using the rounded down 23 metres). This rounding error sometimes causes error messages when a timetable has joins and divides. If I remember correctly there is a fudged length (by 1 metre) for one of the Class 08 plus 1 BG movements in the Carlisle 1979 TT purely to avoid the TT analyser throwing up a length error. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 30/07/2023 at 20:18 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 30/07/2023 at 20:18 #152538 | |
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Splodge in post 152536 said:Ah, could be a hangover from earlier WTTs but at the moment it definitely doesn't (I've done the job loads, and do it again on Wednesday!)Thank you Splodge for helping on this matter :-) Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 31/07/2023 at 19:23 #152550 | |
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2H82 goes in to P12 and 2A82 Also scheduled to use the platform, Platform is not long enough for both of them and the train 2H82 forms does not leave until after 1700.
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 31/07/2023 at 19:32 #152552 | |
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HST125Scorton
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i26 in post 152550 said:2H82 goes in to P12 and 2A82 Also scheduled to use the platform, Platform is not long enough for both of them and the train 2H82 forms does not leave until after 1700.2A82 amended to use another platform at Piccadilly. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 31/07/2023 at 19:51 #152554 | |
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i26
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1H61 Wants Platform 7 at 0845 whilst 1A17 is in that platform until 0855. I did look at alternative platforms but can't find any suitable ones as the next train to arrive in P6 arrives at 0905 and is also a Pendo and 1H61's outbound leaves at 0915
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 31/07/2023 at 20:04 #152555 | |
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HST125Scorton
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Thanks, I think some of the Avanti services will clash but I will duly sort these out. If you have a 9-Car 390 you could throw it into P1 if you fancy been spicy, 11s won't fit though. Now fixed. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Last edited: 01/08/2023 at 18:49 by HST125Scorton Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 09:20 #152585 | |
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Another clash for Avanti, 1H63. Nothing can be done and just going to have to be held outside and routed around until 1A29 leaves P6.
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 09:52 #152586 | |
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I have fixed the Avanti platform clashes., Is XC trains all ok? Or do some of them need replatforming?
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 10:53 #152588 | |
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bill_gensheet
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Attached one of the checks I run on terminal stations. It processes the tt_Analysis file and checks for two consecutive arrivals / departures so you can check them over in more detail. E-- E-- --B --B I normally do it visually for that pattern but I have added a highlight function Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 02/08/2023 at 10:56 by bill_gensheet Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 11:23 #152591 | |
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Thank you for this. I’ll go over it when I get back from hospital. Seems I’ve made a bit of mess with platforming trains.
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 12:11 #152593 | |
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bill_gensheet
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HST125Scorton in post 152591 said:Thank you for this. I’ll go over it when I get back from hospital. Seems I’ve made a bit of mess with platforming trains. It does not look bad, most of the highlights are OK double docking last in - first out or splits Log in to reply |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 20:25 #152610 | |
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I've had a good look over this I'll presume TRUE means it's a clash on that platform?
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 02/08/2023 at 21:08 #152612 | |
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bill_gensheet
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The 'TRUE' is two successive 'same move' so an E-- followed by another E-- (and so on) It checks the column C (movement type) for the same movement in the next line It does not necessarily mean a clash, just two arrivals without a departure which means 'look closer'. A standard double docking is going to be highlighted, but is not a clash unless for length It will still miss a bad A>> E-- --B >>D if the >>D wants to happen before the --B Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
| Timetable Testing Assistance 03/08/2023 at 07:34 #152614 | |
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Noticed a lot of the 1P's for the Ordsall Chord get held at Water St Junction and it gives other trains priority coming from Salford/Ordsall Lane Jn. Not sure whether this is a sim issue as had this with other timetables as well.
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| Timetable Testing Assistance 03/08/2023 at 08:38 #152616 | |
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HST125Scorton
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I've had the same issue myself not exactly sure what the issue is but I end up manually routing the trains.
Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Last edited: 03/08/2023 at 08:38 by HST125Scorton Reason: None given Log in to reply |