Which WTT are Class 9 GTR Thameslink schedules published?

Anyone got idea which WTT GTR Thameslink Class 9 passenger trains are published in?

I have just downloaded WB01,WB02,WC01,WE01,WF02 & CJ01 and none of them show any GTR Class 9 Thameslink trains. The only reference to Class 700 are empties mentioned in CJ01. Very strange. I wondered if there was a separate WTT specific to Thameslink services. And as a Signaller at TBROC for over seven years, I have never seen a copy of any WTT, we use TRUST.

....I have no idea why they don't show this information for the May 2023 edition of the working timetable, might be worth asking Network Rail why this is?

ajax103 in post 154064 said:

....I have no idea why they don't show this information for the May 2023 edition of the working timetable, might be worth asking Network Rail why this is?

I did a freedom of information request along with a general enquiry to Network Rail. The response I got was that WTTs have nothing to do with them as they are a Rail Infrastructure company. Advising me to contact GTR Thameslink. Yet another case I have come across, whereby employees in certain positions on Network Rail have no idea what their business does.

Never looked at YA section. I have just looked at YA and again for both Dec2022-May2023 and May2023-Dec2023 there are no GTR Thameslink Class 9s. Maybe it is how GTR THameslink are getting away with all the cancellations they have, there is no fixed working timetable for their trains. Shall have to look at archived ones as you mention.

Well firstly Network Rail are wrong in saying WTTs are nothing to do with them as they produce them in the first place as they have both current WTTs and archived ones available on their site.

I believe station working books are produced by the TOC Train Planning Team in question though, might be worth asking GTR as they do them for set locations.

As to the archives above, I hope you find what you need and you're welcome.

ajax103 in post 154064 said:

....I have no idea why they don't show this information for the May 2023 edition of the working timetable, might be worth asking Network Rail why this is?

I did a freedom of information request along with a general enquiry to Network Rail. The response I got was that WTTs have nothing to do with them as they are a Rail Infrastructure company.

I am sure the attitude is who needs a WTT or a printed Passenger TT when you can look it up on a computer or smart phone (TRUST journey planners etc) Long gone are the days as a guard when you just had a diagram, the WTTs you required and a journal and you had to work it all out for yourself. Traincrew used Sheila in my old TOC which showed diagram and schedules of each train worked including subsequent calling points if relieved enroute thus making printed WTTs redundant.

geswedey in post 154134 said:

I am sure the attitude is who needs a WTT or a printed Passenger TT when you can look it up on a computer or smart phone (TRUST journey planners etc) Long gone are the days as a guard when you just had a diagram, the WTTs you required and a journal and you had to work it all out for yourself. Traincrew used Sheila in my old TOC which showed diagram and schedules of each train worked including subsequent calling points if relieved enroute thus making printed WTTs redundant.

I do not miss carrying about 3 WTTs and my pink book. You'd spend your booking on time getting half of your first train written down and then catch up with the rest of your diagram when on the train, THEN think about getting tickets done between door duties. haha. Thank god for simplifiers now.