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Sheffield Sep 2023 04/09/2024 at 09:15 #158400
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1189 posts 		Both 1F77 and 1F80 are 116m in length (Cl. 222) entering in the Down direction with stopping position Far End. The combined 232m length of 1C13 (which also departs in the Down direction via Nunnery) probably shouldn't be overlapping the TC in rear if the working length of this platform is 345m as per manual.
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Sheffield Sep 2023 04/09/2024 at 16:05 #158405
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198 posts 		Yeah, strange
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Sheffield Sep 2023 04/09/2024 at 21:22 #158408
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1111 posts 		BenWright in post 158398 said:
Worth noting as well 1F77 and 1F80 join on platform 2 but go past the signal

Mantis 41371 for investigation

Jamie a temporary fix is to FX 1F77
Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!!
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 01:19 #158419
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198 posts 		Also worth noting that 6E95 berths at Swinton
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 08:07 #158420
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1189 posts 		BenWright in post 158419 said:
Also worth noting that 6E95 berths at Swinton
Yup, the timetable has to stop sometime
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 11:37 #158423
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46 posts 		Yes, timetables have to stop. But there is nowhere on the real railway where a train will be booked to berth in the middle of a main line. Logically, it should run until the point where it drops off the SIM.

My over-tidy mind means that I like to finish a SIM with no trains at all on it. For trains that are berthed, I simply abandon timetable and then let them rung forward to the nearest SIM exit point where I let them drop off. But that's just me.
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 12:28 #158427
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5269 posts 		Cedric in post 158423 said:
Yes, timetables have to stop. But there is nowhere on the real railway where a train will be booked to berth in the middle of a main line. Logically, it should run until the point where it drops off the SIM.

My over-tidy mind means that I like to finish a SIM with no trains at all on it. For trains that are berthed, I simply abandon timetable and then let them rung forward to the nearest SIM exit point where I let them drop off. But that's just me.
What do you do with trains that terminate within the sim then in real life have a next working which is beyond the scope of the SimSig TT?
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 18:06 #158434
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198 posts 		Yes you can berth terminating trains but this train should've (I think) carried on to Moorthorpe or Doncaster and the train should still carry on running after the sim has finished
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 18:21 #158435
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1189 posts 		Problem then is the chained Ardsley TT doesn’t have this train as it’s past the end time. I could add it but then I’d end up recessing at MORTHGL instead!
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 18:52 #158436
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198 posts 		Ah, fair enough. I forgot to say thank you for the timetable, sorry for all the moaning, just wanted to let you know so it can be even better
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Sheffield Sep 2023 06/09/2024 at 21:54 #158440
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1189 posts 		No worries! All good questions to ask so others can find the answer in future. Glad you’ve enjoyed the TT.
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Sheffield Sep 2023 28/09/2024 at 16:41 #158693
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22 posts 		Hi,

Just having a go with the latest version of the timetable and found I get 7M18 and 7M19 both arriving within a minute or so of each other and both show as the exact same 07:21 Doncaster Up Decoy to Toton. Both also show as running 100% of the time. Both train consist details are exactly the same too.


Should this not be a case of one or the other running rather than both?
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Sheffield Sep 2023 28/09/2024 at 18:20 #158696
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3700 posts 		Cedric in post 158423 said:
Yes, timetables have to stop. But there is nowhere on the real railway where a train will be booked to berth in the middle of a main line. Logically, it should run until the point where it drops off the SIM.

My over-tidy mind means that I like to finish a SIM with no trains at all on it. For trains that are berthed, I simply abandon timetable and then let them rung forward to the nearest SIM exit point where I let them drop off. But that's just me.
In all the timetables I author, trains stop and berth at the next timing point beyond 24:00. When everything has stopped you'll get the end of timetable message. I've written them that way because I see it that the simulation stops at 24:00 not 24:40 supervising one last stopping train off panel.

how users then work with that is up to them of course.... however I don't see anything wrong with it being done the way this timetable has been.
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Sheffield Sep 2023 28/09/2024 at 19:53 #158698
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1189 posts 		WaveyDavey in post 158693 said:
Hi,

Just having a go with the latest version of the timetable and found I get 7M18 and 7M19 both arriving within a minute or so of each other...
7M19 has an error in its decision field - should be contingent on choice "7M19". I'll correct this in a future release.

Thanks for letting me know
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Sheffield Sep 2023 02/10/2024 at 16:42 #158726
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22 posts 		I've noticed some of the Nottingham to Leeds services terminate at Sheffield and become ECS to move around the station area before then being used later in the day for similar Nottingham to Leeds services. Is this correct and if so should they not be shown as Nottingham to Sheffield and then Sheffield to Leeds services rather than Nottingham to Leeds services both before and after changing to ECS?

1Y16 and 1Y22 are both examples but I've seen at least one other and possibly another in the Leeds to Nottingham direction that did the same.
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Sheffield Sep 2023 02/10/2024 at 16:53 #158727
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1189 posts 		There were a number of services caped that day at Sheffield due to train crew not fancying the job. The affected trains should have notes in the pop-up timetable view:
1B64, 1L65, 1L77, 1Y09
1Y12, 1Y16, 1Y21*, 1Y22

*(1Y21 terminated at SHF due to train fault)
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Sheffield Sep 2023 02/10/2024 at 17:20 #158728
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22 posts 		9pN1SEAp in post 158727 said:
There were a number of services caped that day at Sheffield due to train crew not fancying the job. The affected trains should have notes in the pop-up timetable view:
1B64, 1L65, 1L77, 1Y09
1Y12, 1Y16, 1Y21*, 1Y22

*(1Y21 terminated at SHF due to train fault)
Ah sorry I hadn't realised that.
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