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| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel 10/11/2024 at 17:48 #159125 | |
Future
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Just interested as to why, when developing Westbury (admittedly it was some time ago) the decision was made to include the Reading Newbury Panel as it isn’t/wasn’t a part of Westbury PSB. It causes a bit of headache when timetabling as it is split across two timetable sections in the 60s/70s/80s (WR A and B).
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| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel 10/11/2024 at 19:32 #159127 | |
GeoffM
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Might have been a desire to be a "Berks & Hants" sim, or maybe the envisioned Reading sim would have been too big. Not sure, it was a long time ago as you say.
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| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel 10/11/2024 at 20:31 #159128 | |
9pN1SEAp
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And according to TrackMaps, it's now two different panels - plated T as far as Newbury, and TR from Kintbury to Heywood Road!
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| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel 10/11/2024 at 20:53 #159130 | |
Steamer
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9pN1SEAp in post 159128 said:And according to TrackMaps, it's now two different panels - plated T as far as Newbury, and TR from Kintbury to Heywood Road!It's all controlled from the same workstation- I think the difference in plating reflects the area which was fully resignalled, and the area which was a re-control of the former Reading panel remote interlockings. Photo of the workstation here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/22694102303 "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel 10/11/2024 at 21:04 #159131 | |
JamesN
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Steamer in post 159130 said:9pN1SEAp in post 159128 said:Correct --- 'TR' for the former Reading Panel (Western Extension) Interlockings now controlled remoted from TVSC: Woodborough, Bedwyn, and Hungerford. 'T' for the "new" signalling installed in 2013 as part of the immunisation works for electrification.And according to TrackMaps, it's now two different panels - plated T as far as Newbury, and TR from Kintbury to Heywood Road!It's all controlled from the same workstation- I think the difference in plating reflects the area which was fully resignalled, and the area which was a re-control of the former Reading panel remote interlockings. Photo of the workstation here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/22694102303 Prior to the 2013 immunisation project, the whole of the B&H workstation was re-controlled Reading Panel interlockings; and all had "TR" signal IDs. **** In the "paged" simulation days; that original Westbury development dates from, I expect full Reading panel would have been too big for the maximum 6 screens (for players) the software could do at the time – at a guess it would be 7 screens. Last edited: 10/11/2024 at 21:04 by JamesN Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: 9pN1SEAp |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 09:38 #159136 | |
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kbarber
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Also worth noting the Newbury Panel was a late addition to Reading. (Was it back end of the 1970s or even early 1980s?) I never visited Reading but I was given to understand it was shoehorned into the space between the original panel and the front of the box. I have a feeling it was also a push-push panel rather than the turn-push variety that had previously been most typical of Western installations. So it was always a bit of an outlier, regardless of which sim it ended up in.
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| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 10:35 #159137 | |
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officer dibble
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kbarber in post 159136 said:I never visited Reading but I was given to understand it was shoehorned into the space between the original panel and the front of the box.As you came through the door onto the operational floor of the PSB, the "West Junction", "Reading Station" & "Twyford" positions were on your left and the B&H panel was on the right, overlooking the Goods lines and the Bristol end of the station. From my memory the main panel was operated by 2 signallers & the B&H panel by 1. Always enjoyed the rare opportunity to go and watch the signallers go about their work & always jumped at the chance to be allowed to have go myself! When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 11:59 #159138 | |
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bill_gensheet
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From the user / timetabling end, it gives more to do on Westbury as well as meaning poor regulating decisions land back with the user ! Even without the Newbury section, 'old' Reading might be a bit much for one player Bill Log in to reply |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 13:37 #159139 | |
lazzer
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9pN1SEAp in post 159128 said:And according to TrackMaps, it's now two different panels - plated T as far as Newbury, and TR from Kintbury to Heywood Road!We have signals at Kintbury plated TRK :-) Log in to reply |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 13:38 #159140 | |
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lazzer
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officer dibble in post 159137 said:kbarber in post 159136 said:I visited Reading PSB once, back in 2007. It was quite cramped in there, from what I remember of the room itself.I never visited Reading but I was given to understand it was shoehorned into the space between the original panel and the front of the box.As you came through the door onto the operational floor of the PSB, the "West Junction", "Reading Station" & "Twyford" positions were on your left and the B&H panel was on the right, overlooking the Goods lines and the Bristol end of the station. From my memory the main panel was operated by 2 signallers & the B&H panel by 1. Always enjoyed the rare opportunity to go and watch the signallers go about their work & always jumped at the chance to be allowed to have go myself! Log in to reply |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 15:43 #159141 | |
madaboutrains
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https://photos.signalling.org/index?/category/815-signal_box Photos of Reading if anyone is intrested. RIP Feltham Panel 1 Log in to reply |
| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Yesterday at 17:29 #159143 | |
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lazzer
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I was living in Reading in 2011, when the goods lines were lifted and the box was demolished. I have photos of it myself, taken from the old pedestrian bridge from the car park to the station concourse. Long gone now, of course ...
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| Reasoning behind including Reading Newbury Panel Today at 17:49 #159151 | |
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Zoe
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kbarber in post 159136 said:Was it back end of the 1970s or even early 1980s? Between 1977 and 1979. Log in to reply |