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| gloucester new yard 04/03/2010 at 20:15 #805 | |
Charlytos
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Train has destination Glouscester new yard, but I see only gloucester old yard, new yard don't find it, where is that zone?, put number signal more nearly of same!
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| gloucester new yard 04/03/2010 at 20:15 #7075 | |
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Charlytos
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Train has destination Glouscester new yard, but I see only gloucester old yard, new yard don't find it, where is that zone?, put number signal more nearly of same!
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| gloucester new yard 04/03/2010 at 21:47 #7078 | |
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John
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Depending on the direction the train is coming from, here are the possible routes in to the New Yard.
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| gloucester new yard 04/03/2010 at 21:58 #7080 | |
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sloppyjag
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There is also a route into Sdgs 1-12 at Gloucester New Yard from sigs 237 or 337 into the sidings adjacent to the Up Curve from Gloucester/Horton Rd LC (sig 460 is the exit signal.)
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| gloucester new yard 05/03/2010 at 12:50 #7096 | |
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Charlytos
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Thanks john and sloppyjag to answer and thanks john by image which clarifies much where was the new yard zone. .................... Other question, any trains run until Bromsgrove, after reverse to Bromsgrove South its destination. To right of Bromsgrove platform there are three locations: OIL TERMINAL, BANKER SPUR and exit to DROITWICH, which of those 3 locations is Bromsgrove South?... Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 05/03/2010 at 21:08 #7110 | |
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UKTrainMan
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I think that Bromsgrove South is basically anywhere south of Bromsgrove. Imagine if a train came from Gloucester area heading to Bromsgrove Bankers Spur it could be signalled to run upto Signal 71 then from Shunt Signal 412 into Bankers Spur, that means it would have reversed at Bromsgrove South, unless of course it's path was UGL or DGL. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 05/03/2010 at 21:33 #7111 | |
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Charlytos
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UKTrainman thanks to answer and clarify the problem!... Trains that request Bromsgrove South are: 0X00 to 00:00 hours, which is terminated on that place. After requests that place: 7E95 waiting join a loco and 6E88 waiting a loco too more late. But really, loco to join with 7E951 is in list of locos from full trains list, but ignore from which train comes. I played simulation until 03 hours and loco for 7E951 didn't appeared!. Over loco for 6E88 the same with in previous case!... Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 05/03/2010 at 21:42 #7112 | |
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sloppyjag
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0X00 is the banker loco for Bromsgrove - it goes to the Banker spur and waits for any trains which need banked. So, for example, 7E951 arrives and needs the banker (0E951 I think) to join. You then need to run 0X00 or 0B00 (which it becomes later) to another timetable in F2 - change 0X00/0B00 to 0E951. It can then run to the back of 7E951 and join. Planotransitophobic! Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 07/03/2010 at 17:44 #7142 | |
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Charlytos
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Sloopijag proved how you put me yesterday. First didn't get join from 0x00 changed to 0e951 and 7e951. Loaded saved session of new, makes different. From Bromsgrove BS how train 0x00 is terminated, put it new id for work with it 0e751 and move it to ugl, waiting arrive of 7e951 then if was started joining for both trains. Doubt is. if 0e951 must be joined by ahead or rear of 7e951?...
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| gloucester new yard 07/03/2010 at 18:05 #7143 | |
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sloppyjag
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It joins the rear of the train at Bromsgrove and is removed at top of incline at Blackwell, becomes 0B00 and returns down the incline to Bromsgrove Banker Spur. In reality the banker loco(s) would not actually join but just help the train up the incline then slow down at the top and the freight train carries on but that can't really be simulated properly.
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| gloucester new yard 08/03/2010 at 01:33 #7152 | |
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mfcooper
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The use of the Banker locomotive (0X00 / 0B00) was explained in the simulation timetable description when loading up the sim, and once in a manual somewhere... You have to use the F2 menu to find 0X00/0B00 and "Run to Another Timetable" for whatever loco is required for trains requiring a join at Bromsgrove South. Eg: 7E951 stops at Bromsgrove South. It wants to join with 0E951, which will help push the train up the Linkey Bank (a steep hill!) You go into the F2 menu, right-click on 0X00 or 0B00, and the select "Run to Another Timetable" You type/select the train description the train is waiting for, in this example 7E51 is waiting for 0E951, so thats the description you select. Then you can run the loco from the "BANKER SPUR" to the rear of 7E951, the join will happen, and then 7E951 will continue its journey, being pushed up the hill by the Banker Loco. At the top of the hill, the loco will detach, forming 0X00 or 0B00, and the loco will return down the hill to the "BANKER SPUR", and 7E951 will continue its journey. When the next train that requires a push up the hill stops at Bromsgrove South, you repeat the process, but changing the timetable to the required loco train description (eg: 6E88 will want 0E88, and so on) Hopefully that all makes sense! Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 08/03/2010 at 10:33 #7155 | |
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Charlytos
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Thanks mfcooper and sloopyjag to put new details over loco 0X00 changed to 0E951 and join on rear of train 7E951. I made the first assign new ID 0E951 to 0X00 loco that was how train terminated. But ignored over which make the join ahead or rear. By your two answers understand that is on rear train, helping it to go up the hill... For my reason, must be put how activity, Next train for 0X00 the ID 0E951. Players cannot to know that 0X00 terminated train on that zone is the next loco 0E951 for 7E951. How I lived him does any days, waiting entrance from that point or how part of any train entered on simulation the loco 0E951 and same never was enabled on simulation... Note. Pardon, when started this thread with question over Gloucester new yard, put that didn' see name of new yard. Yesterday if see that name, is a few up of Gloucester platforms. I ignore why didn't see it the other day!. Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 08/03/2010 at 18:08 #7159 | |
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sloppyjag
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The reason why 0X00/0B00 doesn't automatically become 0E951 is there is the possibility of freight trains running late or even not appearing at all. For that reason the signaller has to manually change the timetable (run to another timetable option in F2) 0X00/0B00 to whatever (0E951 in this case) the train arriving at Bromsgrove is expecting.
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| gloucester new yard 13/03/2010 at 19:21 #7272 | |
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Charlytos
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New problem train 9b28, entrance from Lydney, stops Gloucester UR, pass Horn road Jn, destination Gloucester New Yard. If after stop UR line send it from Horn Road Jn to Gloucester yard, message incorrect route. If after Horn road Jn send it to Barnwood Jn, and reverse to Gloucester yard, message incorrect route... Resuming, why doesn't accept none of both lines, if are the unique possibility to go to Gloucester New Yard from Lydney line?... Log in to reply |
| gloucester new yard 13/03/2010 at 19:52 #7277 | |
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sloppyjag
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I have just tried this and it enters Gloucester New Yard (Line UR) without complaint from the driver. I tried signalling directly from Sig.233 at Gloucester Station Up Relief line and also signalling from Sig.233 to shunt signal 431 (just before Horton Rd LC) then into Gloucester New Yard (Line UR), both without complaint from driver. So, I'm not entirely sure what you are doing wrong.
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| gloucester new yard 13/03/2010 at 21:33 #7280 | |
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Charlytos
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Thanks sloopyjag to answer it. Read your details I understood my mistake was sending it incorrectly!. Look you the image with 2 colours lines red bad, green well done. I have reloaded session and sent how if is put on green line in image, no negative message received:
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| gloucester new yard 13/03/2010 at 21:46 #7282 | |
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sloppyjag
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The green line is still the incorrect route. Train should be going to Gloucester New Yard (Up Rec) which is the middle of the three sidings (between Down Rec and CE Depot) to the left of Horton Road Curve.
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| gloucester new yard 13/03/2010 at 22:03 #7283 | |
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Charlytos
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Pardon but how was accepted to sidings 1-12, I thought that was the correct. You are refering on your last answer to siding 13-18. Taking detail that isn't put on timetable train, which siding is destination!
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| gloucester new yard 13/03/2010 at 22:27 #7284 | |
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sloppyjag
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The correct destination for 9B28 is Gloucester New Yard, Line Up Receiving siding. Not Sidings 1 to 12. Not Sidings 13 to 18. It may be that it will accept Sidings 1 to 12 as an alternative in case Up Receiving siding is unavailable.
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| gloucester new yard 14/03/2010 at 20:29 #7293 | |
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Charlytos
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thanks of new sloppyjag to clarify more the question of that train and send image, marking the real destination for that train. I thought with negative idea, that UR destination was the different New yard sidings. Problem over this train fixed for me!...
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