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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 02/01/2018 at 16:32 #104728
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I've got 3S20 and it's booked to arrive at Ware at 03:54 and depart at 04:08 with no indication in the timetable that it has to reverse at Hertford East indeed the signalling is set up so one can do this at Ware.

So I currently have a phone call from the driver of 3S20 stating and I quote "Driver of 3S20 has an incorrect route set at signal 1081: booked via Hertford East".

Now as Hertford East is on the same line as the line to Ware and is AFTER Ware, I seem to have a issue...

Do I tell the driver to wait 5 minutes for the signal to be reset, Do I tell the driver to abaondon timetable or tell the driver to ignore Ware and change ends at Hertford East bearing in mind 3S20 is a 40m engineering train and I already have 2 sets of 8 car trains in the platforms at Hertford East.

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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 02/01/2018 at 22:01 #104740
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ajax103 in post 104728 said:
I've got 3S20 and it's booked to arrive at Ware at 03:54 and depart at 04:08 with no indication in the timetable that it has to reverse at Hertford East indeed the signalling is set up so one can do this at Ware.

So I currently have a phone call from the driver of 3S20 stating and I quote "Driver of 3S20 has an incorrect route set at signal 1081: booked via Hertford East".
Hmm. That message (if it's being generated by the core code rather than sim-specific data) means that the train has Hertford East in its timetable before the next reversal and the route set has "wrong way for Hertford East" in the sim data. If the problem is missing a stop, it will say "stops at" instead of "booked via".

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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 02/01/2018 at 22:20 #104743
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But Hertford East is NOT mentioned at all in the timetable as the screenshot I took which clarify, I know I can reverse at signal L5315 then though Platform 3 at Broxbourne however as soon as it comes to signal 1081 for some strange reason the driver rings up stating wrong route set even though I have correctly set the route as far as Ware.

Any idea why this is happening?


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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 02/01/2018 at 22:37 #104745
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clive in post 104740 said:
ajax103 in post 104728 said:
I've got 3S20 and it's booked to arrive at Ware at 03:54 and depart at 04:08 with no indication in the timetable that it has to reverse at Hertford East indeed the signalling is set up so one can do this at Ware.

So I currently have a phone call from the driver of 3S20 stating and I quote "Driver of 3S20 has an incorrect route set at signal 1081: booked via Hertford East".
Hmm. That message (if it's being generated by the core code rather than sim-specific data) means that the train has Hertford East in its timetable before the next reversal and the route set has "wrong way for Hertford East" in the sim data. If the problem is missing a stop, it will say "stops at" instead of "booked via".
No, it requires Hertford East but should allow Ware as an alternative. I think the TT was changed at the last minute due to the platform clash - possibly they did a bit of untimetabled shuffling around, or sent one train for a night off so the RHTT could do its job.

Mantis 19117.

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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 03/01/2018 at 07:52 #104755
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GeoffM in post 104745 said:

No, it requires Hertford East but should allow Ware as an alternative.
I was simplifying a bit. There's several ways that the sim data can put requirements on a route. One is to say "can't go this way if booked for Hertford East" while another is to say "can only go this way if booked for Hertford East".

If I'm understanding Geoff correctly, the route has the latter and should have "can only go this way if booked for Ware or Hertford East".

If this is so, then the message is a bit misleading (it should say "not booked for"). I'll look into that. Mantis 19123.

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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 03/01/2018 at 08:28 #104756
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Thank you both, I am using ARS but I did preset the route beforehand so I knew I had set the route correctly.

I appreciate you guys looking into it.

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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 18/01/2018 at 23:15 #105218
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clive in post 104755 said:

If this is so, then the message is a bit misleading (it should say "not booked for"). I'll look into that. Mantis 19123.
Fixed in next Loader release.

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Reversing at Ware, Sim insists Hertford East 19/01/2018 at 04:37 #105224
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clive in post 105218 said:
clive in post 104755 said:

If this is so, then the message is a bit misleading (it should say "not booked for"). I'll look into that. Mantis 19123.
Fixed in next Loader release.
For the record, the sim has also been fixed but is awaiting testing before re-release (it's not the only change).

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