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How complete are timetables?

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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 17:24 #121705
Brytenwalda
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As a Londoner who used to take the Hampton Court - Waterloo train very often, I’ve noticed that it’s missing from most timetables and too rare in those where it’s actually available. Trains to Guildford seem to be running pretty accurately though. Overall, Clapham Junction especially seems to be running at a much lower frequency than real life (I’m quite familiar with that station).

Note that my experience at the moment is limited to this scenario, I wonder how realistic schedules in other ones are.

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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 17:36 #121706
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The ground hog day timetables) 2009,2015 and 2019)are all taken directly from network rail data feeds and therefore accurately reflect whatever than on that given day. They should therefore be 99% accurate allowing for the odd train consist being off.

User made timetables will vary.

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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 18:43 #121710
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jc92 in post 121706 said:
The ground hog day timetables) 2009,2015 and 2019)are all taken directly from network rail data feeds and therefore accurately reflect whatever than on that given day. They should therefore be 99% accurate allowing for the odd train consist being off.

User made timetables will vary.
Ground hog day for Waterloo? Where can I find them?

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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 18:54 #121711
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It doesn't have one, looking at the downloads section although It is an old sim.

Wimbledon does come with a 2009 ground hog timetable.

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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 20:41 #121719
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Brytenwalda in post 121705 said:
As a Londoner who used to take the Hampton Court - Waterloo train very often, I’ve noticed that it’s missing from most timetables and too rare in those where it’s actually available. Trains to Guildford seem to be running pretty accurately though. Overall, Clapham Junction especially seems to be running at a much lower frequency than real life (I’m quite familiar with that station).

Note that my experience at the moment is limited to this scenario, I wonder how realistic schedules in other ones are.
The 2010 timetable available in the downloads area has half-hourly Hampton Court services, which I believe is the general frequency on that route?

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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 23:05 #121721
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Yes, that sounds about right, I don’t get it in my simulation though, at least not at that frequency. Does it have something like a spawning chance? I’ve played this very timetable for like 6 hours during the day and only saw it once.
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How complete are timetables? 16/11/2019 at 23:14 #121722
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Brytenwalda in post 121721 said:
Yes, that sounds about right, I don’t get it in my simulation though, at least not at that frequency. Does it have something like a spawning chance? I’ve played this very timetable for like 6 hours during the day and only saw it once.
Did you adjust the start time from the pre-set 04:30 when you started the simulation? That timetable has a fairly comprehensive set of rules which prevent a service's next working appearing too soon after the outgoing service leaves the area. If you started the TT after the outbound service was supposed to leave the area, the inbound one will never appear.

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How complete are timetables? 17/11/2019 at 01:22 #121725
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Steamer in post 121722 said:
Brytenwalda in post 121721 said:
Yes, that sounds about right, I don’t get it in my simulation though, at least not at that frequency. Does it have something like a spawning chance? I’ve played this very timetable for like 6 hours during the day and only saw it once.
Did you adjust the start time from the pre-set 04:30 when you started the simulation? That timetable has a fairly comprehensive set of rules which prevent a service's next working appearing too soon after the outgoing service leaves the area. If you started the TT after the outbound service was supposed to leave the area, the inbound one will never appear.
Ah, thank you! I started it at 7:00 as I had no idea about that! I tried starting it at 4:30 and everything works correctly, including trains at the station.

Should I always start the simulation at the specified time?

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How complete are timetables? 17/11/2019 at 11:05 #121730
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Brytenwalda in post 121725 said:

Should I always start the simulation at the specified time?
Yes, otherwise you get problems like this, or trains waiting for joining trains that entered before the time you chose, or trains never appearing because the stock remains in the simulation all day (this doesn't happen on Waterloo but is common on other simulations).

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