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| Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 00:14 #120546 | |
9pN1SEAp
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LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional? Thanks Jamie Jamie S (JAMS) Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 10:02 #120548 | |
kbarber
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9pN1SEAp in post 120546 said:LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?It looks to me as if there's a bar connecting the banners to the down line. Google Maps shows the line emerging from Shugborough Tunnel on a left-hand curve, so it would make sense if the banners are on the right hand side of the formation for sighting purposes. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 10:50 #120550 | |
headshot119
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9pN1SEAp in post 120546 said:LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?They're connected with the stem to the down line, but yes they are drawn per the real workstation. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: 9pN1SEAp |
| Staffordshire FAQ 23/09/2019 at 20:00 #120551 | |
Edgemaster
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9pN1SEAp in post 120546 said:LS3571BR at Shugborough Tunnel (for Milford Jn Dn) is drawn on the Up line instead of the down. Is this intentional?See photo. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: 9pN1SEAp |
| Staffordshire FAQ 15/01/2020 at 19:41 #122880 | |
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Nutter
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Bug report - Similar to others - Overshoot at Stafford Hi I'm running staffordshire with the 2019 downloaded timetable, no ARS and avoiding lines shut, Derby lines not active, and have had overshoots (into overlaps) on both P5 and P4, temp fix to to hold the starting signals at danger. Signallers normally clear the route prior to my arrival (WMT Guard) so our arrival speeds can be a little higher as the drivers are not approaching a red signal Many Thanks Mark Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 21/03/2020 at 22:02 #123929 | |
HST125Scorton
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pedroathome in post 120230 said:I've double checked against the data, Yes there does appear to be some read through protection on Signal SC5611, which has been added for the next update. As I was looking at this, I have spotted another signal which appears to have the same protectionI don't know if I've been away from SimSig too long or not played on it for a good while, but while enjoying a good session with the Staffordshire Sim I noticed the signals at Searchlight Lane Jn regarding the signals SC5611. If a route is set to DS shouldn't the signal opp be reverted to a red? As it works when the route is set to Stone the other signal is Red. I apologise if I'm incorrect just haven't been on SimSig playing for a couple of months.  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 21/03/2020 at 22:22 #123930 | |
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TylerE
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HST125Scorton in post 123929 said:[quote=pedroathome;post=120230]Turn on "Panel Signals" in the options. The signal will show green (or yellow) as appropriate if the following blocks are clear. Turning on panel signals will grey out all the auto-signals so only signals you actually control show aspect. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 21/03/2020 at 22:47 #123934 | |
kaiwhara
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HST125Scorton in post 123929 said:pedroathome in post 120230 said:That depends whether both signals are visible to a driver when reaching the junction itself. If the driver can't see both auto's at the same time, or in the lead up to the junction, that may not necessarily be the behaviour you'd expect.I've double checked against the data, Yes there does appear to be some read through protection on Signal SC5611, which has been added for the next update. As I was looking at this, I have spotted another signal which appears to have the same protectionI don't know if I've been away from SimSig too long or not played on it for a good while, but while enjoying a good session with the Staffordshire Sim I noticed the signals at Searchlight Lane Jn regarding the signals SC5611. If a route is set to DS shouldn't the signal opp be reverted to a red? As it works when the route is set to Stone the other signal is Red. Pedrick might be able to verify correct behaviour from the Control Tables. Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait! Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 22/03/2020 at 02:02 #123936 | |
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y10g9
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Confirmation from Pedrick There is only 1 route with the read through protection on it, which is the route for the Down Norton Bridge (SC5609 to NS4331). This route does replace SC5611 to danger. When SC5609 is set to SC5611, NS4331 does not get replaced to danger. In real life, the route to the down slow is pretty much dead straight, whereas the route onto the Down Norton Bridge curves round to the right. The signals are not next to each other in real life. Satellite view of the area is here Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
| Staffordshire FAQ 22/03/2020 at 12:40 #123941 | |
Steamer
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This was discussed earlier in the thread- see my post here for a YouTube video link which shows the signals in question.
"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
| Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 14:50 #125223 | |
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mattja19
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Hi folks, a returnee to Simsig so trying to get back into the swing of things (not that I was great at it before haha). Anyway, I have invested in the Staffordshire sim (great work as always by those involved in the development of these fantastic sims) but have hit an issue that I'd like to learn a bit more about. Basically, I have a Track Section Failure on the Stafford DS which is covering the Trent Valley junction and means that I cannot route anything on or off the Penkridge lines to and from Bushbury. From this I have the following questions: 1) Am I missing a way of actually setting routes off the lines through P4 and P5 at Stafford and towards Bushbury or is it just a case of having to sit it out until the TSF is fixed? 2) It is early in the TT (currently approaching 0100hrs) so things are quiet right now and I only have 6M73 sat on the Down Penkridge waiting to enter Stafford station but if this problem had occurred later in the day, I would undoubtedly have a backlog of XC, LNWR, VTWC/AWC and freights along the Bushbury route waiting to head towards Crewe or Stoke and also on the Up Stafford Slow with trains waiting to head towards Bushbury. When disruption has occurred between Stafford and Wolverhampton (in the real world), it has been known for XC to route some of their services along the TV route so I was wondering if there was a way to do something similar in Simsig without receiving a load of 'wrong route' messages and therefore reducing backlog. There was a 3rd question in my mind but it's gone now so I will leave it at those 2 unless it comes back to me. Thanks in advance 
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| Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 16:13 #125227 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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In response to 2, you can abandon the trains timetable and then he will happily go anywhere you send him without complaint. It’s hard to answer 1 without seeing what track circuit is failed and what routes are set in the area. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 17:40 #125232 | |
bugsy
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Stephen Fulcher in post 125227 said:I think that a screenshot would be helpfull in this instance and it might be worth just checking that 'Failure time length' and 'Minimum failure time' options aren't set too high as well. I got caught out early on by not adjusting the 'Failures' settings. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 19:33 #125241 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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A screenshot would show what I referred to yes. Failure time length is irrelevant, the interlocking won’t change as a result of it, and therefore the query won’t have a different reply. Remember in reality there is no such option, if just depends on the actual cause of the fault and the Technicians ability. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 31/03/2020 at 20:09 #125244 | |
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bugsy
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Stephen Fulcher in post 125241 said:A screenshot would show what I referred to yes.I know that the failure times are irrelevant as far as the interlocking is concerned. The reason that I mentioned them was because if they aren't set low it would exacerbate the delay problems. Just wanted to make that point. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 02/04/2020 at 00:47 #125284 | |
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UKTrainMan
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In regards to question 1 above, I would have to assume that track circuit TLSTM has failed with points PLS709 in the reverse position which also holds points PLS708 and PLS707 normal too.
Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 02/04/2020 at 00:48 by UKTrainMan Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 08/05/2020 at 17:02 #126627 | |
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mattja19
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Stephen Fulcher in post 125227 said:In response to 2, you can abandon the trains timetable and then he will happily go anywhere you send him without complaint.Is abandoning the trains timetable seen as the correct approach in situations where trains can be re-routed to avoid possible disruption even if it means missing out stations? I imagine it is not a decision that is taken lightly considering there will be people on the train who's destination will not be served I should also add apologies for the lateness of my response. Thanks to everyone who responded and I fully understand that a screenshot would have helped - unfortunately by the time I realised this, the TSF had cleared but I will bear it in mind for future queries on here
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| Staffordshire FAQ 08/05/2020 at 17:17 #126630 | |
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MarkC
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mattja19 in post 126627 said:Stephen Fulcher in post 125227 said:Posting a Save game is ALWAYS much more useful than a screenshot.In response to 2, you can abandon the trains timetable and then he will happily go anywhere you send him without complaint.Is abandoning the trains timetable seen as the correct approach in situations where trains can be re-routed to avoid possible disruption even if it means missing out stations? I imagine it is not a decision that is taken lightly considering there will be people on the train who's destination will not be served Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 09/05/2020 at 21:25 #126666 | |
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Edgemaster
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mattja19 in post 126627 said:Is abandoning the trains timetable seen as the correct approach in situations where trains can be re-routed to avoid possible disruption even if it means missing out stations? I imagine it is not a decision that is taken lightly considering there will be people on the train who's destination will not be served When routing a train off the planned path, you can either edit the timetable ahead of time through the F2 train list window to skip any calls that will be missed. If the diversionary route doesn't skip any stations, then the train will often accept the route without query (the simulation manual should document what diversionary routes are acceptable). If neither of those apply, then the driver of the train will phone you to query the wrong route, there should then be an option to skip the missed stops and/or junction(s) as specified in the timetable, the call may be repeated multiple times if multiple stops need to be skipped. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 23/10/2020 at 22:50 #133287 | |
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HST125Scorton
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Bradwell Esso Sidings I have two trains 6K38 Ex Basford Hall to Bradwell Esso Sidings upon doing the timetable everything is all good no issues but when using the Analysis to check for errors hoping none would appear this appeared train 6K38 terminates with no onward working, so I added it return 6K39 but then it said it doesn't need it. So my question is should trains 'fall off' the sim at Bradwell Esso Sidings upon arrival? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Last edited: 23/10/2020 at 22:51 by HST125Scorton Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 28/07/2021 at 19:29 #140815 | |
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9pN1SEAp
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pedroathome in post 119738 said:Resolved - One of those daft issues. You'll notice that there are two options to call "Cockshute Shunter, Up", One of which should have been English China Clay.Unless I'm going potty I can't see China Clay in the outgoing calls options! OS: Windows 10 Home 64bit Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.16.1; Sim: Simulation Staffordshire; data version 1.2 License: Dynamic license in use TT: Staffordshire 2015 (SSux) v2.0.0 TT filename: Staffordshire 2015 (SSux).WTT TT merged: False Sim upgrade: False Loader upgrade: False Save reloaded: True NLX_ON active at start NLX_DERBY_ON active at start NCROSSINGS active at start NDERBY_EN active at start NDERBY_LINES active at start NARS_REAL active at start NSTAFFORD_CLOSURE choice 1 NSOT_CLOSURE choice 2 NSTAFFORD_SLOWAPPR active at start NSTAFFORD_SLOWAPPR choice 3 NSTAFFORD_AVOIDER active at start NSTAFFORD_AVOIDER choice 4 N_NORTONFLYOVER choice 5 N_RICKERSCOTE choice 6 NTWO active at start NTWO choice 7 NWON_41_137 choice 8 NPROBLEMS active at start NLOW active at start Thanks Jamie Jamie S (JAMS) Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 28/07/2021 at 22:26 #140826 | |
pedroathome
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9pN1SEAp in post 140815 said:pedroathome in post 119738 said:You could be going potty (I won't comment there), but I'll agree the call option isn't there. Its correct that I've resolved it, but it appears to have slipped through the crack for getting an update released.Resolved - One of those daft issues. You'll notice that there are two options to call "Cockshute Shunter, Up", One of which should have been English China Clay.Unless I'm going potty I can't see China Clay in the outgoing calls options! James Log in to reply The following user said thank you: 9pN1SEAp |
| Staffordshire FAQ 11/08/2021 at 23:58 #141080 | |
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HST125Scorton
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Would anyone be able to help me regarding a pathing from Bradwell Esso Siding to Longport? It keep saying No Paths found. And then makes 6K39 timetable invalid. This is an upcoming timetable in the works so I have no save. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 12/08/2021 at 03:44 #141081 | |
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UKTrainMan
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HST125Scorton in post 141080 said:Would anyone be able to help me regarding a pathing from Bradwell Esso Siding to Longport? It keep saying No Paths found. And then makes 6K39 timetable invalid. This is an upcoming timetable in the works so I have no save.Comparing that train in your timetable to a similar train I had enter from Bradwell Esso Sidings in the excellent "Staffordshire 230420 COVID" timetable, it looks to me like you can't have that extra timing point you've included. Have you tried removing that first timing point? .  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Staffordshire FAQ 12/08/2021 at 09:42 #141083 | |
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HST125Scorton
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UKTrainMan in post 141081 said:HST125Scorton in post 141080 said:I copied what 6K38 did from that timetable and Berth the train upon arrival so that 6K39 will no throw up errors. Maybe this could be highlighted within the manual. Could James (Pedro) check to see why there is an invalid path though? I'm sure trains should just drop off sim on arrival and new train formed on departure?Would anyone be able to help me regarding a pathing from Bradwell Esso Siding to Longport? It keep saying No Paths found. And then makes 6K39 timetable invalid. This is an upcoming timetable in the works so I have no save.Comparing that train in your timetable to a similar train I had enter from Bradwell Esso Sidings in the excellent "Staffordshire 230420 COVID" timetable, it looks to me like you can't have that extra timing point you've included. Have you tried removing that first timing point? Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |