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| BHM NS Issues 17/08/2019 at 13:09 #120093 | |
Rossy
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I've been playing the BHM NS Sim (2001 Onwards) for a while now and have come across some issues. 1) Even after selecting 'Track Section Failure' to 'None' I still receive it. To add the more annoyance, After the Technician has fixed the area, the TSF still sticks and then is there for the rest of the sim. 2) 2W05, 07:44 Arrival, return works a 14:31 Departure 3) Four Oaks/Lichfield Trains don't return for up to 5 hours. It's just some Issues I've had, could anyone advise on what to do about these? Or if a possible fix is due? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 17/08/2019 at 13:49 #120097 | |
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y10g9
895 posts |
For number 2, 2W05 has the wrong 2N75 selected for the New Activity. He should form the 2N75(P41729) 07:56 Birmingham New Street - Lichfield City (LM 3/323) Service. The 2N75 service that jas been selected is 2N75(P41727) 14:14 Lichfield City - Longbridge (LM 3/323). If you go into F2, Edit Timetable for 2W05, Double click New Street in the list, Double click where it says next train 2N75/P41727, and change the Train ID or $UID box to $p41729 (just changing the last 7 to a 9). Click on all the OKs and you'll get a message saying driver been told of amended TT and the service will form the correct service Edit Was reported on Mantis as 22277, marked as resolved but doesn't seem to have been released Last edited: 17/08/2019 at 13:55 by y10g9 Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 17/08/2019 at 17:31 #120108 | |
Hap
1037 posts |
For number 3. It's known amongst other users of the sim and myself that this has happened, though I can't see report on Mantis for it, and haven't really pinpointed the cause of it. Are you running with delays on? There are rules in the TT for X City trains. One idea I had, though I could be miles off, is that there could be an error with one of the rules or train as I know a couple enter on the wrong TT. (PM rather than AM) Going to look into it more tonight. Craig How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 17/08/2019 at 18:51 #120109 | |
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MarkC
1105 posts |
Rossy in post 120093 said:I've been playing the BHM NS Sim (2001 Onwards) for a while now and have come across some issues.Do you have another save or saves from earlier (from after 0621 and before 0711)? Did you use the F11 Incident control panel at anytime? Last edited: 17/08/2019 at 18:56 by MarkC Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 28/06/2020 at 16:13 #128420 | |
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lazlo52
70 posts |
New issue just appeared I believe as not happened to me before, unable to route from NS312 signal to SB1 for trains returning to Soho Depot.
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| BHM NS Issues 28/06/2020 at 18:32 #128432 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
lazlo52 in post 128420 said:New issue just appeared I believe as not happened to me before, unable to route from NS312 signal to SB1 for trains returning to Soho Depot.You need to start that route from the 'highlighted' red arrow next to signal NS312, as seen in this attached heavily cropped screenshot. 
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| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 02:56 #129531 | |
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Woodhead Signalman
64 posts |
Hi Guys, I don't know if this has been brought up before, but it seems to be relatively new. Since the advent of loader 5.3 which is running fine with most sims, I have noticed tonight that the outer edges of New St signalling centre area has been 'cut off' IE I am unable to see or click on the controlling signal off the Four Oaks branch and I also cannot see the outer edge towards Wolverhampton and where the passing loops start and end, and also i cannot see the southern end of the Stour line beyond International. It is as though under the effects of the new loader that it has changed the resolution of the controlled area. Could someone please look into this and address this issue with a patch perhaps? Thanks a lot. Alan.
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| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 05:07 #129532 | |
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JamesN
1607 posts |
Woodhead Signalman in post 129531 said:Hi Guys, I don't know if this has been brought up before, but it seems to be relatively new. Since the advent of loader 5.3 which is running fine with most sims, I have noticed tonight that the outer edges of New St signalling centre area has been 'cut off' IE I am unable to see or click on the controlling signal off the Four Oaks branch and I also cannot see the outer edge towards Wolverhampton and where the passing loops start and end, and also i cannot see the southern end of the Stour line beyond International. It is as though under the effects of the new loader that it has changed the resolution of the controlled area. Could someone please look into this and address this issue with a patch perhaps? Thanks a lot. Alan.Alan, The updated sim has changed the resolution of the controlled area - I suspect you're attempting to open a pre-V5 save into V5. It is a case where the warning that the save may be incompatible when doing so really does mean it unfortunately. I have still logged the issue in mantis our internal tracker system, but the likelihood is that it won't be fixable unfortunately. Last edited: 13/07/2020 at 05:12 by JamesN Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Woodhead Signalman |
| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 11:54 #129543 | |
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Woodhead Signalman
64 posts |
Right, I'll just have to write that previous save off and start a new game then  Thanks for your time and sorry that it is an incompatibility that I should have realised was the case
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| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 17:28 #129547 | |
GeoffM
6376 posts |
Woodhead Signalman in post 129543 said:Right, I'll just have to write that previous save off and start a new game thenI can't check right now but it may be that the width and height are stored in the save file. With a bit of hand editing (carefully), it may be possible to correct it. I wouldn't normally condone such a thing though.... SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 18:10 #129548 | |
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JamesN
1607 posts |
GeoffM in post 129547 said:Woodhead Signalman in post 129543 said:They are, however I can't get a save edited in this way to load - although that may be down to the re-zipping process rather than the edit itself.Right, I'll just have to write that previous save off and start a new game thenI can't check right now but it may be that the width and height are stored in the save file. With a bit of hand editing (carefully), it may be possible to correct it. I wouldn't normally condone such a thing though.... If someone more adept at editing save files is happy to chime in, the magic numbers for width and height are 651 and 59 respectively. There may still be other incompatibilities beyond the sim height/width issue. Last edited: 13/07/2020 at 18:10 by JamesN Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 18:36 #129549 | |
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GeoffM
6376 posts |
JamesN in post 129548 said:There may still be other incompatibilities beyond the sim height/width issue.D'oh, the sim name didn't register when I posted that. This sim is the one that had intensive surgery to correct a number of inaccuracies. See Clive's post here for a good explanation. SimSig Boss Last edited: 13/07/2020 at 18:37 by GeoffM Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 13/07/2020 at 19:44 #129550 | |
Tempest Malice
122 posts |
JamesN in post 129548 said:They are, however I can't get a save edited in this way to load - although that may be down to the re-zipping process rather than the edit itself.For the re-zipping process, I imagine the issue will be that when you unzip you get a folder containing the files, but when re-zipping you just want the files contained within, and not the folder containing them. But yes in this case there are other incompatibilities which would lead me to definitely not advise doing it if you aren't prepared to live with a probably still rather broken save file (or more work to fix it further). Other Issues I had to fix in my new street save was a moving a train off of the the old/new versions of the changed track circuits in platform 9 (where the signal has been moved to be correctly over the points) And some saved data for every signal needed re-jigging to get TORR re-enabled (this fix being a couple of weeks ago I have forgotten exactly what I changed) . Whilst I've got all this working to my satisfaction in my save I wouldn't suggest anyone who doesn't already have some idea what they are doing to try it. Last edited: 13/07/2020 at 19:45 by Tempest Malice Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |
| BHM NS Issues 25/07/2020 at 11:09 #129952 | |
Banners88
112 posts |
Some issues I've found since loader update: 1. Trains which will fit with the mid section signal calling on won't accept routes even thought they fit. Maybe an option to take route anyway? 2. Unable to interpose TD at NS166 (9A). 3. NS168 train has passed and returns to red but then steps up to yellow without signaller action. 4. Not sure if this is a loader update but NS TRTS shows as the same place on the platform even if the train is due to depart from the other end. Believe NS TRTS has option to show the signaller which end the train is due to depart from? Unsure... 5. A and F routes now shown as triangle rather than circle, not sure if this matters... Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 25/07/2020 at 19:28 #129961 | |
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y10g9
895 posts |
Banners88 in post 129952 said:Some issues I've found since loader update: Have you got an example of a train that does this? I've tried calling 5V03 (213m) into P10 with a random 200m train sat at the P10B starter and hanging over into P10A and he happily took the route. Are you setting the call on as Main Signal to Red Triangle? Quote: 2. Unable to interpose TD at NS166 (9A). I agree, Mantis 31218 Quote: 3. NS168 train has passed and returns to red but then steps up to yellow without signaller action. Currently can't reproduce this currently. Are you running with TORR on or off, and which signal did you have it set towards, 171 in P7, 167 in P8, or happened with both? Quote: 4. Not sure if this is a loader update but NS TRTS shows as the same place on the platform even if the train is due to depart from the other end. Believe NS TRTS has option to show the signaller which end the train is due to depart from? Unsure... This is the same behaviour as the last release of the sim prior to Sim Verions 5 being released. Have you got any photos? Quote: 5. A and F routes now shown as triangle rather than circle, not sure if this matters... Normally this would indicate that the via button is only needed for a route going in that direction, however this appears to not be the case here. Mantis 31219 Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 26/07/2020 at 21:45 #129988 | |
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Banners88
112 posts |
1. I will double check and confirm. Unfortunately I didn't make a note, think it was random circumstance on late running etc. 3. It also happens at 8A NS170 to NS167 (2L00 and 5P10 example), 5A NS176 to NS175 (2H09 and 2W00 example), TORR on. 4. 6B trains heading for Wolves TRTS NS195 activates suggesting an UP direction departure (1F31 example), similarly 3A NS198 activates TRTS suggesting the same. Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 26/07/2020 at 22:04 #129989 | |
Steamer
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Banners88 in post 129988 said:Per the manual: TRTS indicators are provided for each half of each platform at Birmingham New Street. The indicators do not indicate direction unlike most TRTS indicators so read the train's timetable to determine which direction it is going in. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Banners88 |
| BHM NS Issues 20/10/2020 at 23:17 #133227 | |
Soton_Speed
285 posts |
A couple of minor issues: 1. Trains tt'd to stop N or NX at BHM P5 in the Dn direction stop whilst occupying T/C 249 - overhanging the Platform end. (I take it that the NX stopping position for Pls 3, 7 & 10 in the Dn direction should be assumed to only be for the outer platform signal?) 2. Trains held at inner Platform signals at BHM don't call in after 2 minutes (guess waiting for outer Starter?). Problem if the outer starter has failed - see No_Call save. 3. 1V71 gets a ACOA approaching SJ21 - see SJ21 save. 4. Managed to get two conflicting routes to call - see Grand_Junc save. TIA Post has attachments. Log in to view them. In Zone 6, no one can hear you scream... Log in to reply |
| BHM NS Issues 21/10/2020 at 09:33 #133235 | |
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peterb
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I appreciate the new feature that drivers will query the length of platforms, however - I had a scenario with a TCF filling the near end of a platform (B end for a train from Wolverhampton) and it was impossible to talk the driver past the red signal into the platform, because it was always too short. Sadly I dont think I have a save however presumably easy to replicate and test via F11. Log in to reply |