Doncaster South Frequently Asked Questions

What's the maximum length of train that can be held at D86 without causing Winthorpe AHB to fail? - Just had a 420m coal train produce this from the 2015 TT and also got a similar result for the 1981-1996 era.

ATM it seems that T/C AG needs to be unoccupied to not cause the failure?

Just checking if its correct,

I had a freight train (can't remember which) stood at on the Up Main at D96 protecting Newark Flat Crossing. The overlap had died and the train was at a stand, but it was still locking P2190 near Newark Curve, against a train crossing from D86 towards signal 79 just before Newark Castle.

I'm afraid I didn't grab a save.

I'll train with another train shortly

Just checking if its correct,

I had a freight train (can't remember which) stood at on the Up Main at D96 protecting Newark Flat Crossing. The overlap had died and the train was at a stand, but it was still locking P2190 near Newark Curve, against a train crossing from D86 towards signal 79 just before Newark Castle.

I'm afraid I didn't grab a save.

I'll train with another train shortly

Earlier today I read something (in the Forum I think) about the crossing failures at Winthorpe but for the life of me I now can’t find it.
I seem to get quite a few failures here but it seems that there is nothing that I can do about it as the train straddling the crossing is usually held to allow another to traverse the Flat Crossing without being delayed.

So, is the result just losing points? Not that I’m particularly concerned if I’m losing points because I’m now only really interested in regulating the trains and trying to minimise delays.

bugsy in post 140844 said:

Earlier today I read something (in the Forum I think) about the crossing failures at Winthorpe but for the life of me I now can’t find it.
I seem to get quite a few failures here but it seems that there is nothing that I can do about it as the train straddling the crossing is usually held to allow another to traverse the Flat Crossing without being delayed.

So, is the result just losing points? Not that I’m particularly concerned if I’m losing points because I’m now only really interested in regulating the trains and trying to minimise delays.

The fix is being tested as we speak - should be out in a day or two.

I’d like to understand a little bit more about this situation in the 2015 timetable.

Train 3Z46 was due to enter at Loversall Carr Jn at 05.45 (1st screenshot) but it had a rule which stated that it couldn’t enter until 192 minutes after 3Z45 left the area. (2nd screenshot)
Well, 3Z45 entered at 01:15 (3rd screenshot) which meant that it left the area 192 minutes later, which according to my calculation, would have been at 04:27.
The sim time is now 07:31 so where is 3Z46? Perhaps I’ve missed something, which wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

So, can someone enlighten me please?

bugsy in post 140859 said:

I’d like to understand a little bit more about this situation in the 2015 timetable.

Train 3Z46 was due to enter at Loversall Carr Jn at 05.45 (1st screenshot) but it had a rule which stated that it couldn’t enter until 192 minutes after 3Z45 left the area. (2nd screenshot)
Well, 3Z45 entered at 01:15 (3rd screenshot) which meant that it left the area 192 minutes later, which according to my calculation, would have been at 04:27.
The sim time is now 07:31 so where is 3Z46? Perhaps I’ve missed something, which wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

So, can someone enlighten me please?

Did 3Z45 actually run? It shows as "as required" so it'll appear greyed out in both the case of not going to run, and has already run. If it didn't run then that'll be why 3Z46 also didn't run.

GeoffM in post 140860 said:

Did 3Z45 actually run? It shows as "as required" so it'll appear greyed out in both the case of not going to run, and has already run. If it didn't run then that'll be why 3Z46 also didn't run.

Mmmm........ Don't actually remember now, but I'll do a rerun to check.

Hi,

I may sound silly here but im having a play around with a new timetable for Doncaster South and wondered would the Newark Castle - Crewe Turn around trains should be included in the timetable even thogh they dont show on the sim.

Thanks

There is a trailing crossover at Newark Castle, allowing trains from Nottingham to reverse and head back to Nottingham. Doncaster is not involved with these moves, but will see track occupancy and train descriptions when chained to the Netherfield simulation (not yet available).

Hi,

I may sound silly here but im having a play around with a new timetable for Doncaster South and wondered would the Newark Castle - Crewe Turn around trains should be included in the timetable even thogh they dont show on the sim.

Thanks

In the ‘Performance Data View, Train Running’ list there is some useful information regarding whether or not trains are running to their scheduled time.
However, some trains are not listed, which isn’t very helpful and, in this instance, 1N04 is not. This is a pity as I’d like to know if it is running late. So, what determines whether a train appears in the list and have I missed something else that would tell me?

The reason that I ask is because I have a Class-4 freight (4E08) in the Grantham Goods Loop which is destined for Newark and Loversall Carr Jn. 1N04 is due to enter at Stoke Jn. in a few minutes and I don’t think that I can get the class-4 to the Claypole Loop in time to avoid delaying the Class-1
...

bugsy in post 141001 said:

In the ‘Performance Data View, Train Running’ list there is some useful information regarding whether or not trains are running to their scheduled time.
However, some trains are not listed, which isn’t very helpful and, in this instance, 1N04 is not. This is a pity as I’d like to know if it is running late. So, what determines whether a train appears in the list and have I missed something else that would tell me?

The reason that I ask is because I have a Class-4 freight (4E08) in the Grantham Goods Loop which is destined for Newark and Loversall Carr Jn. 1N04 is due to enter at Stoke Jn. in a few minutes and I don’t think that I can get the class-4 to the Claypole Loop in time to avoid delaying the Class-1
...

Use the F8 simplifier and select the location required.

In my picture you can see 4E78 showing 101L. So will be expecting him 1hr and 41 minutes late entering sim. To keep the simplifier up to date, you will need to refresh it or open it up again to see the train delay info.

Hap in post 141003 said:

bugsy in post 141001 said:

In the ‘Performance Data View, Train Running’ list there is some useful information regarding whether or not trains are running to their scheduled time.
However, some trains are not listed, which isn’t very helpful and, in this instance, 1N04 is not. This is a pity as I’d like to know if it is running late. So, what determines whether a train appears in the list and have I missed something else that would tell me?

The reason that I ask is because I have a Class-4 freight (4E08) in the Grantham Goods Loop which is destined for Newark and Loversall Carr Jn. 1N04 is due to enter at Stoke Jn. in a few minutes and I don’t think that I can get the class-4 to the Claypole Loop in time to avoid delaying the Class-1
...

Use the F8 simplifier and select the location required.

In my picture you can see 4E78 showing 101L. So will be expecting him 1hr and 41 minutes late entering sim. To keep the simplifier up to date, you will need to refresh it or open it up again to see the train delay info.

Wrong train Hap. It's 4E08 not 4E78.

I opened the simplifier for 'Stoke Jn. (Down Main) (entrance)' in a Web Browser at the beginning of the game, I think on your advice, (can't find the post), copied it into a Word document and use that to see what trains are due and when delays are not shown in the Web version. Same for ‘Loversall Carr (Up Main) (entrance)’

I have opened the Simplifier ‘in game’ as you suggest, and 4E08 is shown as 13 minutes early and 1N04 as RT which I assume is 'Running on Time.' If that is correct then I know that I will have to hold 4E08 and use the Simplifier to see when trains are due.
At least you’ve shown me what I need to do now.

Thanks

Edit: Just discovered that if I open the 'Web' version of the simplifier when needed, it does show the delays, etc.