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| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 26/07/2021 at 21:42 #140759 | |
Hoggorm
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Hello, Playing the London Liverpool Street sim I do from time to time change the arriving platform in the timetable (to avoid a penalty). Do I also have to change the departing platform of the same train to avoid another penalty? Lets say train A should arrive at platform 8, but I send it to platform 3 and changes this in the timetable. Now train A changes ID to train B. It is now on platform 3, but it does say 8 in the timetable. Do I need to change this to avoid a penalty? Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 01:43 #140761 | |
kaiwhara
587 posts |
Hi, It depends on your style of gameplay. I'm personally not at all worried about the score (I actually do a role very similar to this for a living). I'm more concerned about keeping trains moving and using all available options available to me to achieve that. If a platform is free, I will use it. I'm not personally concerned with changing the next working as well to avoid a penalty. You can choose to do that though, but on a busy sim like Liverpool Street, you will have your work cut out for you, or that pause button will get mashed! Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Hoggorm |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 08:30 #140766 | |
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Hoggorm
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Thank you Kaiwhara, Liverpool Street is a busy sim indeed, so I do not prioritize to change platforms if other tasks are required. I do care about the score though, because then I get some guidance on how I'm doing. That is why I'd like to reduce penalties whenever I can, including changing the platform number in the timetable - time permitting. This is a somewhat time consuming process. Every platform change require around 10 mouse clicks (if there is not an easier way to do this?). If changing the departure platform is not required to avoid a penalty I can spare myself a lot of clicking 
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| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 09:38 #140767 | |
Peter Bennet
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Write a one train timetabled to arrive in Pn and next working to depart from Pn+1 and see what happens. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 27/07/2021 at 10:02 by Peter Bennet Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 10:16 #140768 | |
bill_gensheet
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Depending on the kind of simulation you wish to impose on yourself, if you did not change the departure platform there would not be any passengers to get on ! That though is 'SimSolari' not SimSig :-) http://www.gensheet.co.uk/photo2L/LSTimg3_84.jpg Bill Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 22:43 #140778 | |
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Hoggorm
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Peter Bennet in post 140767 said:Write a one train timetabled to arrive in Pn and next working to depart from Pn+1 and see what happens.Im not sure I fully understand what you mean. Is this to test if a penalty is given or not? Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 22:43 #140779 | |
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kaiwhara
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bill_gensheet in post 140768 said:Depending on the kind of simulation you wish to impose on yourself, if you did not change the departure platform there would not be any passengers to get on !Meh, someone else is paid to do that. I just see train, send train, drink tea :-) Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait! Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 22:48 #140781 | |
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Hoggorm
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bill_gensheet in post 140768 said:Depending on the kind of simulation you wish to impose on yourself, if you did not change the departure platform there would not be any passengers to get on ! I see what you mean. Personally I am satisifed that «others» tell the passengers where the train leaves from (or arrive into). Also, I`m not very conserned about changing the platform number in the timetable either. I only do it to avoid the mentioned penalty as I feel the scoring tells me something about how my session went. If I get a bad scoring I probably did something real signallers would not have done. Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 27/07/2021 at 23:20 #140782 | |
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kaiwhara
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Hoggorm in post 140781 said:bill_gensheet in post 140768 said:The scoring really is quite arbitrary, and there are creative things that the good hands will do to get themselves out of the Fudge, but could well result in poor scoring, especially around station working. In a lot of cases (but not always), it is better to get the train in where you can, than wait for the right platform to become available when claimed by a late running train. It all comes down to the situation you find yourself in, and so many factors come into play.Depending on the kind of simulation you wish to impose on yourself, if you did not change the departure platform there would not be any passengers to get on ! I have done plenty of things that Simsig would score badly, but when considering "the greater good", was definitely the right decision at the time. Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait! Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 28/07/2021 at 06:21 #140783 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Hoggorm in post 140778 said:Peter Bennet in post 140767 said:Yes,just to see what happens.Write a one train timetabled to arrive in Pn and next working to depart from Pn+1 and see what happens.Im not sure I fully understand what you mean. Is this to test if a penalty is given or not? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 28/07/2021 at 06:36 #140784 | |
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clive
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Hoggorm in post 140781 said:When I was developing WembleySub one of the testers complained that, no matter what they tried, they couldn't get the timetable to run without delays. I checked with the signal box manager. "Nor can we." Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Dionysusnu |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 28/07/2021 at 10:07 #140788 | |
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Hoggorm
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Peter Bennet in post 140783 said:Hoggorm in post 140778 said:I got you!Peter Bennet in post 140767 said:Yes,just to see what happens.Write a one train timetabled to arrive in Pn and next working to depart from Pn+1 and see what happens.Im not sure I fully understand what you mean. Is this to test if a penalty is given or not? Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 28/07/2021 at 16:07 #140801 | |
GeoffM
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clive in post 140784 said:Hoggorm in post 140781 said:I remember that was said about St. Pancras in the 1980s. The timetabled running times from StP to... Kentish Town (?)... were mathematically impossible to achieve with the line speed allowed.When I was developing WembleySub one of the testers complained that, no matter what they tried, they couldn't get the timetable to run without delays. I checked with the signal box manager. "Nor can we." SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Do I need to change the departing platform in the timetable? 28/07/2021 at 18:41 #140812 | |
jc92
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GeoffM in post 140801 said:clive in post 140784 said:Not to mention the HST/DMU turnbacks at WH take place in a completely different place further north to what the timetable states, meaning again there's technically insufficient time to do itHoggorm in post 140781 said:I remember that was said about St. Pancras in the 1980s. The timetabled running times from StP to... Kentish Town (?)... were mathematically impossible to achieve with the line speed allowed.When I was developing WembleySub one of the testers complained that, no matter what they tried, they couldn't get the timetable to run without delays. I checked with the signal box manager. "Nor can we." "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
