Trains at New Street not giving TRTS.

I am fully aware of this, but sometimes a train does not give TRTS when no signals are set at all! I will try and get a photo next time it happens.

I've reported this before.

The first empties do not TRTS. You put them in the platforms and they just sit there. I had one 3hrs overdue.

They should.

Can I recommend trying it. It all happens at the start of the timetable

There seems to be an outstanding issue here however. trains which are detained in such a way never call to complain about the situation. Assuming a driver is instructed not to accept a RA until he has a complete route out of the platform, would he not call after circa 2 minutes to enquire why he's being detained per section K?

While the signaller shouldn't make the error, its entirely possible to do so and the driver should probably jog his memory at some point.

Right, just found a train that does not give TRTS in the 2015 default timetable, 5S29 or 5S69 (can’t remember which, it is an early morning pendolino ECS from Soho depot to P6 at New Street). The outbound passenger service (1S29/1S69) does not give TRTS if you route it into the platform how you would normally.

Potentially related bug attached -

5O12 in 11A did not TRTS (with the TRTS indicator) in the usual fashion despite its status. However it is calling me up claiming he is at NS148.

marychristmaseverybody in post 146308 said:

Right, just found a train that does not give TRTS in the 2015 default timetable, 5S29 or 5S69 (can’t remember which, it is an early morning pendolino ECS from Soho depot to P6 at New Street). The outbound passenger service (1S29/1S69) does not give TRTS if you route it into the platform how you would normally.

I'm not surprised they don't TRTS. None of them exist in that TT.

GeoffM in post 146312 said:

marychristmaseverybody in post 146308 said:

Right, just found a train that does not give TRTS in the 2015 default timetable, 5S29 or 5S69 (can’t remember which, it is an early morning pendolino ECS from Soho depot to P6 at New Street). The outbound passenger service (1S29/1S69) does not give TRTS if you route it into the platform how you would normally.

I'm not surprised they don't TRTS. None of them exist in that TT.

Ah sorry mate it was 5S39 and 1S39 just looked it up properly.

peterb in post 146309 said:

Potentially related bug attached -

5O12 in 11A did not TRTS (with the TRTS indicator) in the usual fashion despite its status. However it is calling me up claiming he is at NS148.

The platform starting signal is already off so TRTS won't operate.

Using the public release of the 2009 timetable (The save you've uploaded has no version number and appears to be an edited version of an older copy of the timetable as the description doesn't match the V5 public release) 2A36 terminated, formed 5A36 and belled out on the TRTS, running a second time if I gave it a preemptive yellow it didn't bell out but won't move per the dispatch procedure which is what I'd expect.

headshot119 in post 146275 said:

Using the public release of the 2009 timetable (The save you've uploaded has no version number and appears to be an edited version of an older copy of the timetable as the description doesn't match the V5 public release) 2A36 terminated, formed 5A36 and belled out on the TRTS, running a second time if I gave it a preemptive yellow it didn't bell out but won't move per the dispatch procedure which is what I'd expect.

Sorry was this response to the save I posted??

Can I ask, when you say edited version, was 5A36 or 5G93 edited?? If I edit a train does it then affect TRTS for the empties??

I completely understand the process in terms of clearing the first signal but not the platform end signal will make the train wait for a further signal and not then TRTS, as a clear signal negates the TRTS.

Guts in post 146367 said:

headshot119 in post 146275 said:

Using the public release of the 2009 timetable (The save you've uploaded has no version number and appears to be an edited version of an older copy of the timetable as the description doesn't match the V5 public release) 2A36 terminated, formed 5A36 and belled out on the TRTS, running a second time if I gave it a preemptive yellow it didn't bell out but won't move per the dispatch procedure which is what I'd expect.

Sorry was this response to the save I posted??

Can I ask, when you say edited version, was 5A36 or 5G93 edited?? If I edit a train does it then affect TRTS for the empties??

I completely understand the process in terms of clearing the first signal but not the platform end signal will make the train wait for a further signal and not then TRTS, as a clear signal negates the TRTS.

I've just checked your save "220213-000537 sim time 044228 5a36 and 5g93.ssg", and in that game 5A36 is sat at a Y on NS168 towards NS167, hence no TRTS. Clear NS167 and 5A36 departs as expected.

Guts, it's difficult to answer the question as we're struggling to reproduce the issue when running a fresh game, I've tried the trains from the save you posted earlier in the thread a few times, and I can't reproduce the issue. If anyone is able to come up with a reproduceable case, and steps on how do to it, that would assist in helping us fix any issues that might be present.