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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 15:40 #2803
Peter Bennet
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I've just discovered that East Coast Trains are actively looking at re-introducing train names (currently they have 3 I believe) and are taking public suggestions at train.naming@eastcoast.co.uk .

I think they are also looking at loco naming suggestions.

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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 15:40 #14947
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I've just discovered that East Coast Trains are actively looking at re-introducing train names (currently they have 3 I believe) and are taking public suggestions at train.naming@eastcoast.co.uk .

I think they are also looking at loco naming suggestions.

Peter

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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 18:48 #14953
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It all went downhill from Top of the Pops.
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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 19:10 #14954
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get a loco named "SimSig-be an armchair signaller"
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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 21:02 #14957
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Could keep with East Coast tradition and bring back the racehorses
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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 21:19 #14958
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Meld said:
Could keep with East Coast tradition and bring back the racehorses :D
I thought that too.

Have sent a list of train name suggestions- many being reserections- "The Aberdonian" being the one that I particularly liked - where did that silly "Northern lights" name come from.

Also suggested the "Diamond Jubilee" next summer following from the "Silver Jubilee" of summer 1977.
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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 21:34 #14959
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hmm 1977 was on an ER railrover with uncle and the Monday we did an early start to get to The Cross for the inaugral Silver Jubilee - Crepello was imaculate that day and in fine form as well.

My thoughts
91101 St Paddy
91103 Meld (always thought I'd be back)
91107 Pinza
91109 Alycidon
91112 Crepello
91115 Tulyar
91118 Ballymoss
911120 Nimbus

Only leaves another 23 to get names for

An Aside from today and slightly OT - mentioning deltics

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From WNXX
Such is the need for traction at GBRf the private sector has been turned to and 47580 and 55022 are being hired in... 55022 being despatched to the North East today for duties off Lynmouth.

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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 21:58 #14960
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I'm not up on the criteria used to select these horses but presumably there are others since that could be added to the list.

In fact looking them up it appears a few won the St Ledger which is run at Doncaster, a more recent one that caught my eye:

Snurge in 1990

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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 22:12 #14962
Meld
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How about

Provoke -1965
Nijinsky - 1970
Minster Son - 1988 (Possibly tied to York in some way )
Sixties Icon - 2006 (only horse under 3 minutes)
Lucarno - 2007

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Train Names 10/04/2011 at 22:28 #14963
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while were at it what about great central great northern north eastern etc (ie A1 names- companies and directors)

i think GNER had it right with the names originally (ie cities and towns served by the EC)

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 11:26 #14967
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Definitely be good to see some new racehorses. We are talking about the greyhounds of the (other-than specially-built high speed lines) railway, of course, aren't we?

Not that I could possibly be accused of being partisan of course...

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 11:55 #14970
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Wasn't the Deltic 'Crepello' named after a Derby winner in the sixties?

or maybe 'Shergar' for a phantom train?

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 12:59 #14972
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Correct there Andy........also Tulyar and Nimbus.........although not to sure about Royal Scots Grey....lol
Interesting piece of history in that my Great, Great grandfather a gentleman by the name of Singleton was the jockey on the very first St. Ledger winner......a lot of horse thieves somewhere in there also.......

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 13:38 #14973
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lincolnshire poacher - morning service from lincoln to kings cross?
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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 13:50 #14974
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How about some regimental names so could have :-

91108 - The Green Howards

91105- The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire

And you get the rest of the idea :-p

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 13:59 #14975
Peter Bennet
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ipswich said:
lincolnshire poacher - morning service from lincoln to kings cross?
That's one I suggested in my email to EC; The Lincoln Imp being another.

DriverCurran said:
How about some regimental names so could have :-

91108 - The Green Howards

91105- The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire

And you get the rest of the idea :-p

Paul
Do we have any Regiments left these days?

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 14:59 #14982
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A lot of the regiments after which the Deltics were named have now become Battalions in other regiments - there is probably a very restricted list to pick from these days!

On the racehorse theme, a look at the ancestry of the Deltic names shows what a restricted world racehorses inhabit. A quick summary shows:
[table][tr][td]D9001[/td][td]55 001[/td][td]ST PADDY[/td][td]Ancestors include Hyperion (A3), Bois Roussel (A1), Gainsborough (A3), Bayardo (A3), Spearmint (A3), St. Frusquin (A3), St. Simon (A3), Minoru (A3) and Cicero (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9003[/td] [td]55 003[/td] [td]MELD[/td] [td]Sire Alycidon (Deltic), ancestors include Hyperion (A3), Bahram (A2), Blenheim (A3), Gainsborough (A3), and Bayardo (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9007[/td] [td]55 007[/td] [td]PINZA[/td] [td]Ancestors include Blenheim (A3), Manna (A3), Neil Gow (A3) and Lemberg (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9009[/td] [td]55 009[/td] [td]ALYCIDON[/td] [td]Ancestors include Hyperion (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9012[/td] [td]55 012[/td] [td]CREPELLO [/td][td]Ancestors include Blenheim (A3), Solario (A3), Gainsborough (A3), St. Frusquin (A3), Pretty Polly (A3) and Bayardo (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9015[/td] [td]55 015[/td] [td]TULYAR[/td] [td]Sire Tehran (A2). Ancestors include Bois Roussel (A1), Solario (A3), Spearmint (A3), Gainsborough (A3), St Simon (A3), Bayardo (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9018[/td] [td]55 018[/td] [td]BALLYMOSS[/td] [td]Ancestors include Singapore (A3), Gainsborough (A3), Bayardo (A3), The Tetrarch (A3), Sunstar (A3), Spearmint (A3), St. Simon (A3), Minoru (A3), St. Frusquin (A3), Isinglass (A3) and Persimmon (A3)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]D9020[/td] [td]55 020[/td] [td]NIMBUS[/td] [td]Ancestors include Spearmint (A3), St. Simon (A3) and The Tetrarch (A3)[/td][/tr][/table]

I've gone from memory on the steam classes so the guess-work could be a little skew-whiff. No doubt there is a current generation which would reference back to the Deltics and then the steam days.

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Train Names 11/04/2011 at 17:51 #14991
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I've gone from memory on the steam classes so the guess-work could be a little skew-whiff. No doubt there is a current generation which would reference back to the Deltics and then the steam days.
Happy days Postal.......
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Cannot imagine anyone wanting to name a train after a racehorse these days..

Geoff

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Train Names 14/04/2011 at 12:47 #15073
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Of course, in the LNER years (where the convention of naming the A3s after Racehorses came from) Horse racing was nearly as popular then as football is now. So alarmingly, extrapolating that tradtion... 91111 "Wayne Rooney" anyone?

Race Horses is a good theme, personally 911xx "Electra" as an homage to the original projects' name would be nice.

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Train Names 14/04/2011 at 21:06 #15101
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How about historic Engineers, Science and Inventors, Starting with those of the railway and railway technology? George Stephenson, Richard Trevithick... And not make it just those from which the company was based.
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Train Names 14/04/2011 at 21:19 #15102
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Sir William Stainer FRS was on a class 86 electric. Sir Nigel Gresley is the name of an A4 pacific that has been preserved.

Don't recall ever seeing Ivatt though and there are probably several other CME's other than the above that could be used....

I was also think of the football like as well James or maybe ruby players. What about sporting champions such as Nigel Mansell (F1), Sir Steve Redgrave(rowing), Steve Webster (Sidecar), or Andy Prileaux (touring cars) for example though there are many more.

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Train Names 14/04/2011 at 23:04 #15107
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Sir William Stanier was also applied to a Princess Coronation (or Duchess) no. 46256.

Henry George Ivatt (last CME of the LMSR) did not have a locomotive named after him. However, his father Henry Alfred Ivatt was a former CME of the GNR and the LNER designed (but BR built) A1 no. 60123 bore his name. The LNER and their successors in BR did pay homage to their predecessors and a number of A1s were named after pre-grouping CMEs from the LNER constituents, while no. 525 of the A2 class was named A H Peppercorn after Sir Nigel Gresley's successor. The other railways paid rather less attention to their history than the LNER.

[Edit] Forgot to add that LNER also named no. 500 of the A2 Class after its designer, Edward Thompson.

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Train Names 14/04/2011 at 23:30 #15108
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I knew Peter would know.....
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Train Names 15/04/2011 at 13:23 #15128
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Just the product of a mis-spent youth hanging round platform ends and having Ian Allan ABCs as my bed-time reading in the late-1950s and 1960s.
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