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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? 26/10/2024 at 11:38 #158963
Ignacio
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Dear all,

is there a program/tool available showing the movements of the train at the different station versus time, something like in the attached? Or is such a tool unusual in the UK (real) train world?

Thanks, Ignacio


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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? Today at 10:38 #158987
sunocske
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Sorry for being off-topic, but I have to say I love those timetable diagrams.

I am in a model railway club in Hungary, and we are organize or participate events similar to the FREMO module meetings but with TT gauge. We use timetable lists for the station dispatchers, but a diagram like this can be quite handy to see what is (or should) going on around your post. The other point is that it is independent of your language. We go quite often abroad eg. to Slovakia, Czechia, Poland, Germany and so on, and sometimes we have some language difficulties (however, English or German is becoming quite common now) when using the timetable list. But once you get familiar with those diagrams, you just need to note the train classes and colours paired to them, and there you go! And if you have a ruler or anything straight stuff (pencil, edge of paper etc.), you can expect how a delayed train would affect other traffic.

However, I prefer the 90° counter-clockwise tilted diagram style. Don't ask why, but maybe because this is what style I've first met on the Budapest Children's Railway when I was a young boy Here is a tutorial video about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYdjULYddGY

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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? Today at 12:10 #158992
clive
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That's what I know as a "timetable graph". It's not normally used in UK practice as far as I know, though I think the Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway used something similar.

I've seen them used a lot in Australia.

I would expect it would be possible to write an Excel spreadsheet that produces such a graph. Or a script of some kind that turns the timetable XML data into a SVG graph. But I don't have the time to write one myself.

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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? Today at 13:27 #158993
sunocske
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"I would expect it would be possible to write an Excel spreadsheet that produces such a graph."

It is. I've seen a similar Excel spreadsheet at the Children's Railway, which turned WTT-like "input table" to a graph you can see on the video I've linked in my previous post.

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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? Today at 13:30 #158994
Peter Bennet
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They had something like that at Glasgow Central box to regulate the station platforms. I believe it may still be used when control moved to Cowlairs.

Peter.

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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? Today at 15:21 #158995
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It's possible to do practically anything with Excel graphs. At uni I made a spreadsheet which would plot a cross-section of an arbitrary NACA 4-series aerofoil, at an arbitrary angle of attack, and plot lines tangent at defined intervals along the chord of the upper and lower surfaces of length proportional to pressure measured at that point in a wind tunnel, and then join the ends with a curved line that shows the pressure profile. (The exercise was to show what happens when a wing stalls and how a slat can prevent stalling... I never got round to printing the diagrams and submitting the coursework, unfortunately.)

However in the year 2024, some sort of Python tool that takes a .WTT and a set of timing points and produces an SVG might be better?

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"picture timetable" option for SimSig? Today at 16:33 #158998
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Peter Bennet in post 158994 said:
They had something like that at Glasgow Central box to regulate the station platforms. I believe it may still be used when control moved to Cowlairs.

Peter.
The Docker. Brass rollers rolled a sheet under some perspex and they'd write on the perspex. We (at TRE) even quoted for an electronic replacement when they moved to SWSSC but nope, the brass rollers went into the new high tech signalling centre.

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