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5G64 disappearing after entering from Lewes (Up East Branch) 07/03/2025 at 00:16 #160376
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After starting the 2019-01-09 SX timetable, the train enters, appears to enter the first track circuit and then disappears before appearing again after London Road.

This started happening after I updated to loader V5.32 so I'm not sure whether this is a sim bug or a loader bug.

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5G64 disappearing after entering from Lewes (Up East Branch) 07/03/2025 at 01:28 #160378
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Good evening @zandoodle

I'm going to take a look at this tomorrow properly, as so far, when using older loaders I get a message saying "train at buffer stop", then when using 5.32 loader, I can recreate your issue.

Please stand by whilst this is looked into and I will provide a mantis ticket number when/if required.

Thanks
Craig

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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 11:16 #160387
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Error after yesterday's update.
1.TD does not step from Wd100 up dir winsford area.
2.the occupation of sections [TC`s] for wd100 [TWD754N] disappears and reappears in [TWD776] winsford
3.potteries u/d single ; CE192 up and down dir left [****] after step describer and will not cancel describer manually
4.Trains from Harlescott crossing not enter without psad autorisation, stoped at SNH4 or report CE115 depend Timetable/era/block section
4a. In this case entering train not occupy secions and TC`s, not clearing/release signals and crossig and route set. Occupy reapear at CE115 crewe area ewen when the route is not set to CE115, TD berth nos steep from harlescott crossing and " hang" as incoming


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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 12:47 #160390
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Hi Tomiexpress

Could you provide a .ssg file please so we can look into this and compare.

thanks
Craig

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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 12:51 #160391
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They also occur during a new game, but I will send the file
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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 12:51 #160392
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I have similar issues with these too unsure why it's happened. Only save file I've got was before the update being an Xmas Eve thing. Also Crewe Sydney Bridge Timing Point should be optional in 2016-2023 era as I mentioned in this thread https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/56096
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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 17:28 #160398
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HST125Scorton in post 160392 said:
I have similar issues with these too unsure why it's happened. Only save file I've got was before the update being an Xmas Eve thing. Also Crewe Sydney Bridge Timing Point should be optional in 2016-2023 era as I mentioned in this thread https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/56096
The timing point topic has been discussed here. No alterations will be made regarding it.

As for the OP topic. Thank you for the saves and we will look into this.

Craig

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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 17:28 #160399
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HST125Scorton in post 160392 said:
I have similar issues with these too unsure why it's happened. Only save file I've got was before the update being an Xmas Eve thing. Also Crewe Sydney Bridge Timing Point should be optional in 2016-2023 era as I mentioned in this thread https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/56096
The timing point topic has been discussed here. No alterations will be made regarding it.

As for the OP topic. Thank you for the saves and we will look into this.

Craig

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A Bug after yesterday's update 07/03/2025 at 21:57 #160405
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Tomiexpress in post 160387 said:
Error after yesterday's update.

3.potteries u/d single ; CE192 up and down dir left [****] after step describer and will not cancel describer manually


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Mantis 41959. Agreed that this is happening, but will need a little investigation

I'd also suggest replying to this thread rather than editing your initial posting as this could mean bits get missed

James

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Bug after last update 07/03/2025 at 23:37 #160409
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In save file.
When 2F37 will pass HN309 it probably continue to next block buc block is free and signal is clear.

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Not possible recieve train from Chester 07/03/2025 at 23:42 #160410
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After last update in save file 1V95 Stopped at signal CR497 and it is not possible recieve train.
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Bug in V5.32 causing train issues 08/03/2025 at 02:13 #160412
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We've identified and fixed a bug in the Loader V5.32 whereby trains on sims with eras would go the wrong way at the transition point between eras. We have what we call monorail tracks which switch the train from one set of track circuits to another depending on the era. That switching got broken in V5.32 unfortunately. We are now testing the fix and will hopefully get the updated Loader out in the next day or two.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

I'm going to merge the threads where this was reported into this one.

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Train numbers getting stuck on Down Main near Pennant Hills 08/03/2025 at 09:21 #160417
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In the last day or so, I've noticed an issue where train numbers get stuck on the Down Main at N17.17 (near Pennant Hills). The train is then "lost" (no track occupancy shown) between signals N17.45 and TH3, before reappearing with no Train Number just before TH7. At first I shought it may have been a random failure, but I also noticed it on a new simulation I started.

I've been playing 2017 era. I've tried it with ARS on and off, also pre-clearing signals, but get the same result. Makes an already challenging Sim very difficult and quite frustrating.

OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit
Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.32; Sim: Simulation Sydney North; data version 1.19
License: Dynamic license in use
TT: Sydney North 2017-11-01 v1.2.0
TT filename: Sydney North 2017-11-01.WTT
TT merged: False
Sim upgrade: False
Loader upgrade: False
Save reloaded: False
NARS active at start
NARSON active at start
NSIMERA choice 1
N2017 active at start
NPROBLEMS active at start
NNONE active at start


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Last edited: 08/03/2025 at 09:29 by MetroMan
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Bug in V5.32 causing train issues 08/03/2025 at 19:07 #160427
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This has been noted, affects all sims that offer multiple eras, and will be fixed as soon as possible
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Bug in V5.32 causing train issues 08/03/2025 at 21:43 #160430
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This has now been tested and released. Please click "Check for updates" in the Loader to get V5.34.
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