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Stopping at Salford Crescent

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Stopping at Salford Crescent 07/04/2025 at 19:44 #160804
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I diverted a service from Salford Crescent, but the train still stopped on the Up Chat Moss
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Stopping at Salford Crescent 09/04/2025 at 20:13 #160816
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I'm not able to recreate this- if I send a train booked via Salford Central and Salford Crescent to Ordsall Lane Jn it phones wrong route at Deal St. The only way it will accept the route is to ultimately tell it to abandon the timetable (if you tell it to skip a location it rings up again until the only option is to abandon TT), in which case it won't stop.

Did you abandon the TT and then re-instate it once the train moved past the signal at Deal St?

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Stopping at Salford Crescent 16/04/2025 at 17:41 #160858
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Steamer in post 160816 said:
I'm not able to recreate this- if I send a train booked via Salford Central and Salford Crescent to Ordsall Lane Jn it phones wrong route at Deal St. The only way it will accept the route is to ultimately tell it to abandon the timetable (if you tell it to skip a location it rings up again until the only option is to abandon TT), in which case it won't stop.

Did you abandon the TT and then re-instate it once the train moved past the signal at Deal St?
I had a points failure at P6516, failed in reverse. I talked by the service from 583 to 561; can't remember which service, and it then stopped to call at an invisible station.

I then had a 1JXX service do the same thing in the opposite direction from Ordsall Lane on Man Picc, which was chained to Man North.

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Stopping at Salford Crescent 16/04/2025 at 17:52 #160859
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Guts in post 160858 said:
Steamer in post 160816 said:
I'm not able to recreate this- if I send a train booked via Salford Central and Salford Crescent to Ordsall Lane Jn it phones wrong route at Deal St. The only way it will accept the route is to ultimately tell it to abandon the timetable (if you tell it to skip a location it rings up again until the only option is to abandon TT), in which case it won't stop.

Did you abandon the TT and then re-instate it once the train moved past the signal at Deal St?
I had a points failure at P6516, failed in reverse. I talked by the service from 583 to 561; can't remember which service, and it then stopped to call at an invisible station.

I then had a 1JXX service do the same thing in the opposite direction from Ordsall Lane on Man Picc, which was chained to Man North.
Problem is Salford Central is actually a valid timing point on the Chat Moss lines, even though there are no platforms, and can be used for pathing stops etc. If the train has been authorised to pass a signal at danger it'll bypass the wrong route coding, so at that point there's no way for the sim to tell that the train hasn't just been timed to stop there for some other reason. Editing the TT manually is the only way to get round it in those circumstances.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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