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| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 16:01 #3174 | |
Underwood
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Hello all, I just seen that the East Coast WTT has been released for free from East Coast company, after someone requested it under the FOI act. Link: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/new_working_ecml_timetable_may_2#incoming-177389 Scroll down a bit to see the PDF files for all 7 days. Includes headcodes, power types and ECS moves, might be of use to any TT writers for Kings Cross or Peterborough... Cheers, James. Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 16:01 #16419 | |
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Underwood
748 posts |
Hello all, I just seen that the East Coast WTT has been released for free from East Coast company, after someone requested it under the FOI act. Link: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/new_working_ecml_timetable_may_2#incoming-177389 Scroll down a bit to see the PDF files for all 7 days. Includes headcodes, power types and ECS moves, might be of use to any TT writers for Kings Cross or Peterborough... Cheers, James. Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 16:34 #16421 | |
jc92
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surely if its possible to request ECs wtt then whats stopping people asking for all sorts of them?
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| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 17:30 #16423 | |
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Underwood
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Depends what the FOI allows I guess? I personally don't understand how it is top secret, It's not that different to a normal TT, but I guess as the public don't usually request it then the TOC won't go further and create a PDF WTT, but as EC seem to have one as a PDF document then it's not that hard to send one off...unless they complied it into a PDF themselves to send off? This makes it confusing though, if under the FOI a TOC like EC can provide a WTT, then why does LU refuse to give out a WTT? I called TfL up for a request and said he can't send one as it is top secret, and mentioned that even he isn't allowed to view it....is that true?? Cheers, James. Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 17:35 #16424 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
NR has pdf WTTs as do most TOCs. WTTs are general "private and not for publication" but i assume FOI in some way overules that at least for passenger timings i assume we have a right to know what time our train is passing X junction etc "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 17:40 #16425 | |
Peter Bennet
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Underwood said:I thought I saw a posting in the shout box a while ago where someone claimed to have got a LU WTT. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 18:15 #16426 | |
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sloppyjag
480 posts |
There was an enquiry on the same site requesting an electronic copy of LUL working timetables under FOI which was refused. However TfL were willing to send the enquirer a hard copy of the working timetable for each LUL line by post. This offer was declined.
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| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 18:27 #16427 | |
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Sacro
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Yep, I have a box file full of LU timetables, makes for some interesting reading (or door stopping).
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| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 18:32 #16428 | |
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jc92
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if enough people are interested...im tempted to ask NR for a WTT for one of the regions under FOI see what happens
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| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 18:34 #16429 | |
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Sacro
1171 posts |
Depending on what you're after, some things are quite easy to get if you know where to look...
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| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 18:35 #16430 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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I can confirm LUL give out their WTTs by an FOI request. Network Rail do not have to give out WTTs under an FOI as they are not technically a public company. The same goes for every TOC except DOR which, as owned by the government, have to give out WTTs under an FOI. Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 19:18 #16431 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Just to save a whole load of time debating FOI on this thread it was discussed here previously. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 20:56 #16432 | |
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Underwood
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Sorry Peter, I thought there was some thread. I called LU only a few months ago, was recent, as I wanted a 2011 WTT for a LU signal sim on the Circle Line, but as I said he refused on the grounds that it is secret...maybe I should call again and mention the FOI and the fact TfL have posted them before? Log in to reply |
| East Coast WTT 2011 now online for free! 08/06/2011 at 21:02 #16433 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Underwood said:Sorry Peter, I thought there was some thread.? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |