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| Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 09:50 #19943 | |
NCC1701
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Is this a bug or is this the way it would be on the real thing? Signal 2 at Woldingham has one or more lamps failed and is showing no aspect. Its banner repeater to the rear is still showing "off". I appreciate the main signal in the rear is "on" and trains will need to be talked past but I was wondering if the BR indication was correct. Had this happen at signal 1 on the down line as well. :huh:  Sorry meant to post this in the Oxted section... Moderator - Moved Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Signalman Exeter West & Llangollen Last edited: 23/08/2011 at 10:05 by mfcooper Reason: Moving Topic Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 11:13 #19948 | |
TomOF
452 posts |
Having not played Oxted can someone confirm whether the repeater changes when the next signal is at danger? For the record some types of signallers workstations don't show the BR lp or off. Some do A banner repeater should revert to 'on' when the next signal is no lamp proved. Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 12:48 #19952 | |
jc92
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the banner repeaters show off when a yellow or green aspect is shown in advance, as per the real thing. they show red when the train passes the signal in advance, not when it passes the banner. the indication above is wrong and is a bug of sorts. personally im not too bothered about the repeaters, they make a nice decorativ touch but make little difference to my gameplay "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 12:57 #19955 | |
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NCC1701
129 posts |
I did come across another similar issue. I had the route set from Hurst Green through toward East Grinstead, well in advance of the next train. The main aspect showed green, as you would expect. The banner repeater stayed "on". Cancelling and reselecting the route, the banner came "off". As you say, they are a nice decorative touch more than anything: I was curious what the real world way of working with banner repeaters was as I wasn't sure. Signalman Exeter West & Llangollen Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 15:40 #19964 | |
DriverCurran
688 posts |
The real Oxted signaller has no indication of the status of the banner repeaters. What I can try to add is a test to the data so that in the event of a lamp failure the banner reverts to on. Please also see the main Oxted release thread regarding the route set and banner on. This will be investigated in due course. If the banners cause too much trouble they may well be removed in the next version. The timing of the banner returning to danger varies from banner to banner, those related to signals at or near the end of station platforms are more likely to remain off until the signal itself returns to danger. Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply The following user said thank you: NCC1701 |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 15:44 #19966 | |
lazzer
634 posts |
" said:they show red when the train passes the signal in advance, not when it passes the banner. The banner repeater before the signal at the end of the down relief platform at West Ealing (the one which controls movements onto the Greenford branch) returns to "danger" when a train passes it, and not the signal to which it applies. I know this because as I overtake a slower train in my HST on the down main I see it happening all the time. I'm waiting for this issue to come up in safety briefings so I can moan about it. 
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| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 17:48 #19979 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Some do and some do not, both are allowed under the standards, and neither is a fault. HOWEVER, the picture above is a wrong side failure as with the lamp out the signal is effectively at danger and the banner should show on. Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 23/08/2011 at 17:57 #19980 | |
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jc92
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" said:" said:i was reffering to the banners in the sim, im well aware that many have replacement track circuits in real lifethey show red when the train passes the signal in advance, not when it passes the banner. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 24/08/2011 at 15:11 #20025 | |
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jc92
3685 posts |
i have also noticed that when i save, close and reopen the game, all the banners revert to the on position
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| Re: Banner Repeaters 24/08/2011 at 19:19 #20034 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
2078 posts |
That sounds like a bug.
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| Re: Banner Repeaters 24/08/2011 at 21:56 #20046 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
" said:i have also noticed that when i save, close and reopen the game, all the banners revert to the on positionI can't recreate that? Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 24/08/2011 at 22:28 #20049 | |
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jc92
3685 posts |
" said:" said:update to this, ive since realised this only applies to signals which are controlled, not automaticsi have also noticed that when i save, close and reopen the game, all the banners revert to the on positionI can't recreate that? also hasnt happened every time "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 24/08/2011 at 22:46 #20055 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
" said:" said:Ah, have recreated it. Had originally only checked the BR at Upper Warlingham and that was fine. Loaded my latest save and indeed the Banner Repeater for Signal 21 at Hurst Green (Down Platform starter) has failed despite the signal it relates to being off. Have reloaded many-a-time and still failed. Guess work-around for now would be either a) Don't save game with related signal pulled off or b) Cancel and re-set the route." said:update to this, ive since realised this only applies to signals which are controlled, not automaticsi have also noticed that when i save, close and reopen the game, all the banners revert to the on positionI can't recreate that? Actually, whilst we're talking about banner repeaters and having mentioned Upper Warlingham - the one there on the Down Platform seems to have been misplaced to before the platform and not on the platform?!! Last time I was there I'm pretty certain it was actually on the platform itself and not before. Hasn't moved or something, has it? Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 24/08/2011 at 22:52 by UKTrainMan Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 25/08/2011 at 17:14 #20104 | |
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DriverCurran
688 posts |
Just to let you know, i'm not ignoring these posts gents. The more info I can get in will assist with attempting to fix this bug. Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 13/09/2011 at 07:28 #20910 | |
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naasxing
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Really appreciate the effort you have (all) put into creating this nice sim for us! I love the Banner repeaters. The on that sticks 'on' for me is at Lingfield down and as that is an auto I cannot reset it. But that is not at all important. Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 17/09/2011 at 14:19 #21013 | |
agilchrist
258 posts |
I have an issue with the banner repeater, its showing off when it definitely should be on. Upper Warlingham station See attached imageif it ever manages to upload......! 
Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Blessed are the true believers, for only they shall walk the Path, and they shall be welcomed unto the realm of the Ori and made as one with Them. Last edited: 17/09/2011 at 14:30 by agilchrist Log in to reply |
| Re: Banner Repeaters 19/09/2011 at 18:20 #21108 | |
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DriverCurran
688 posts |
Agilchrist. Have used the default timetable with the developer scenerio on 10x speed to recreate the scenerio of a train on every signal between South Croydon and Hurst Green as per what appears to be the situation in the picture you have attached. The result of this test is that OD1BR works correctly and maintains itself at the on postion all the time that it should be. With the information I have available I sadly at this stage must declare this as a no fault found, If in the mean time any further information to allow me to recreate the possible bug then rest assured that I will attempt to recreate it using the new information that has come to light. Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |