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Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 20:25 #24197
BarryM
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Does Kings Norton have restricted electric traction? Had a cl 323 unable to travel from P4 to down fast. Unable to find anything about traction in Wiki.

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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 20:29 #24198
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from new st- kings norton, all AC, kings norton - halesowen, slow lines only, halesowen- redditch- main lines only
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 20:34 #24199
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Does anyone know when the fast lines were knitted up? I know it's not old but no idea when it happened :dry:
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 20:40 #24200
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theyre not between Kings Norton and Longbridge....
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 20:45 #24201
Stephen Fulcher
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I believe at one time it was considered to wire-up the fast lines between KNN and LOB
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 21:05 #24203
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Electrification wasnt done brillaintly on the Cross City Line. Only the Slows were Electrified apart from the points across the fasts at Longbridge to lead into the Turnback Siding.
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 21:10 #24205
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Just to correct one of the posts.

The UP & DOWN fasts between King's Norton and Longbridge are NOT wired.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 21:15 #24206
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" said:
Electrification wasnt done brillaintly on the Cross City Line. Only the Slows were Electrified apart from the points across the fasts at Longbridge to lead into the Turnback Siding.
I suppose it may have something to do with BR not considering it necessary for passenger trains which all call at all stations to need to access the Fast Lines in this area.

Downside is that they would provide a useful diversionary route to work around faults and other incidents. The "middle" platforms at Kings Norton and Northfield fell into disuse at about the same time as the electrification scheme so could have (and indeed could still) have been made available for such use. Longbridge is a little more difficult as it is a modern station which has only ever had platforms on the slow lines.

Similarly, electrifying the Goods lines between Longbridge and Cofton (Down) / Barnt Green (Up) and upgrading them for passenger standard would also be beneficial.

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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 21:18 #24207
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Infact King's Norton still has the bridge access to the island platform albeit the entrance is boarded up. It would prove useful if the fasts were wired, as it would if the Camp Hill lines were wired.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 21:47 #24222
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If the Camp Hills were electrified, then you could have a Redditch - Redditch Service (Saltley Project X me thinks!)
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 22:42 #24250
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" said:
Infact King's Norton still has the bridge access to the island platform albeit the entrance is boarded up. It would prove useful if the fasts were wired, as it would if the Camp Hill lines were wired.
If my memory serves me correctly, Northfield is the same. bricked up top and bottom.

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If the Camp Hills were electrified, then you could have a Redditch - Redditch Service (Saltley Project X me thinks!)
Could still do that for Project X - just use a 172

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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 22:43 #24252
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or a "diesel" powered EMU (as far as the sims concerned)
"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 22:45 #24253
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You lot are putting ideas into my head for the Barnt Green terminator path.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 22:45 #24254
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" said:
or a "diesel" powered EMU (as far as the sims concerned)

That's true - just send it via the Camp Hill and tell it to use its emergency generator. Might lose a lot of points in the process if were going to do that all day.

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Re: Kings Norton 01/12/2011 at 22:47 #24255
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shudve clarified- i meant give its description as EMU in the timetable, but when producing the timetable, have its train types power as diesel
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Re: Kings Norton 14/12/2011 at 16:26 #25486
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another thing to add to manual!

Only the slow lines from Kings norton (Inclusive) to Longbridge, the only the main lines from longbridge to Barnt green - Redditch are wired.

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Re: Kings Norton 14/12/2011 at 18:50 #25497
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Manaul says:
"South Top
South Top panel covers the line from Bromsgrove via Kings Norton to New Street. At Kings Norton a route branches leading to Bordesley Jn and Saltley, but note that it is also another route to New Steet. A single track branch runs from Barnt Green to Redditch. This is electrified from New Street, but note that only the slow lines are electrified between Kings Norton and Longbridge. There is also a depot at Kings Norton, and a connection to the Rover Car plant at Halesowen."

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Re: Kings Norton 15/12/2011 at 04:20 #25580
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" said:
Manaul says:
"South Top
South Top panel covers the line from Bromsgrove via Kings Norton to New Street. At Kings Norton a route branches leading to Bordesley Jn and Saltley, but note that it is also another route to New Steet. A single track branch runs from Barnt Green to Redditch. This is electrified from New Street, but note that only the slow lines are electrified between Kings Norton and Longbridge. There is also a depot at Kings Norton, and a connection to the Rover Car plant at Halesowen."
Andy, Where is the Manual?

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Re: Kings Norton 15/12/2011 at 08:07 #25586
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http://www.SimSig.co.uk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=usertrack:mans:manuals
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Re: Kings Norton 16/12/2011 at 04:28 #25640
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" said:
http://www.SimSig.co.uk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=usertrack:mans:manuals
Andy, I should have said "where in the manual"? What you quoted is not visible in the Saltley Manual.

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Re: Kings Norton 16/12/2011 at 07:59 #25646
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http://www.SimSig.co.uk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=usertrack:mans:saltley:sypanels
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Re: Kings Norton 16/12/2011 at 20:23 #25663
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Thanks Andy.

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Blind in one eye, can't see out the other.lol!

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