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| Useful site for timetable creators 29/01/2012 at 18:39 #28405 | |
Splodge
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http://www.opentraintimes.com/ Provides National Rail-style timetables for a given location, taken from NR data (WTTs, basically). However, select 'Advanced mode' and you also get headcodes, arrival and passing times for a train, as well as passing trains for a given location, both stations and TIPLOC. Potentially very useful indeed for TT creators. I've been playing with it all weekend and it seems to be accurate - it showed PW trains heading to a possession near Bolton last night so it is certainly up to date. It doesn't yet have live timings for all TOCs, but they are apparently on their way. It is all above board and legitimate using openly available data (the creator comments here http://www.wnxxforum.com/interactive/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23093) There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: postal, ExDistrictDriver, Temple Meads |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 30/01/2012 at 12:45 #28434 | |
Tallington
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Thanks for that Splodge.  I had just finished a report for the Law Commission to change the law on allowing closure of Level Crossings other than on safety grounds and had submitted my 12 hour road traffic survey figures from the 19th January 2012 in a spreadsheet. The TIPLOC clue let me get in and see every train on that day over our crossing (TALNGTN) and cut and paste them into another spreadsheet. They will now go off as further proof of the congestion here, from Network Rail themselves! :evil: I don't know how far they go back but WILL be trying later today for the October 2010 figures! Thanks once again. Ken B) Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 30/01/2012 at 14:08 #28435 | |
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njimiller
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This is seriously good stuff. Living as I do looking out onto Acton Freight Yard - the detail available about what will go by and when is excellent. Thanks! Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 30/01/2012 at 18:35 #28440 | |
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McBoo
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Excuse my ignorance but what do the different letters after DMU mean? e.g. DMUE? Also what do the white letters in a red box next to locations mean? e.g. RM Thanks, Eden Last edited: 30/01/2012 at 18:35 by McBoo Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 30/01/2012 at 18:42 #28441 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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" said:Excuse my ignorance but what do the different letters after DMU mean? e.g. DMUE? Also what do the white letters in a red box next to locations mean? e.g. RM RM means reversing move. If you hover over it it'll tell you. Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 01:04 #28449 | |
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EddyHarris
36 posts |
Wow! This is exactly what I have been looking for. Thanks much!
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| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 12:20 #28458 | |
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y10g9
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" said:Excuse my ignorance but what do the different letters after DMU mean? e.g. DMUE? Also what do the white letters in a red box next to locations mean? e.g. RMI believe that DMUE is Diesel Multiple Unit enhanced. This bascially means that they are able to run at 125 mph which lets on to them being a class 220/221/222 As stated by ralphjwchadkirk if you hover over them they let you know what they mean. So far i have seen the following codes (with explinations) RM - Reversing Movement RR - Stops for locomotive to Run Round train -U - Stops to Attach Vehicles OP - Stops for Operation Reasons -D - Stops to Detach Vehicles TW - Stops for tablet, staff, or token Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 12:25 #28459 | |
jc92
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" said:" said:DMU (E) - express sprinter ie 158 units, also applies to 170s unless the WTT gives 170 as a timing load as the newer ones doExcuse my ignorance but what do the different letters after DMU mean? e.g. DMUE? Also what do the white letters in a red box next to locations mean? e.g. RMI believe that DMUE is Diesel Multiple Unit enhanced. This bascially means that they are able to run at 125 mph which lets on to them being a class 220/221/222 DMU (S) - sprinter ie 150, 153, 155, 156 units DMU (A) - 14X DMU units voyager units will appear as 220 or 221 on timing loads or else DMU125 or DMU V HST5 for example is a HST with 5 central coaches, ie a 2+5 set also HST110 to denote reduced speed sets where applicable D1, D2, D3 indicate formations of DMUs as defined by the sectional appendix (not really applicable on many modern WTTS) "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 12:51 #28461 | |
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Sacro
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http://SimSig.co.uk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=usertrack:ttuse:munits&s[]=dmu#modern
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| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 17:51 #28478 | |
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McBoo
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Thanks everyone for your very useful replies 
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| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 19:24 #28480 | |
DriverCurran
688 posts |
May well be doing something wrong, but every time I look for a line up at a certain TIPLOC, I have used Ken's example for Tallington all I ever get is no location found with that name, any pointers guys and girls as to where im going wrong  Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 19:34 #28481 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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" said:May well be doing something wrong, but every time I look for a line up at a certain TIPLOC, I have used Ken's example for Tallington all I ever get is no location found with that name, any pointers guys and girls as to where im going wrongClick settings, then advanced mode Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 20:06 #28482 | |
postal
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" said:" said:My experience is that even doing that is bit like trying to get 2 trains to join at Temple Meads. You sometimes need to try two or three times before it finally works.May well be doing something wrong, but every time I look for a line up at a certain TIPLOC, I have used Ken's example for Tallington all I ever get is no location found with that name, any pointers guys and girls as to where im going wrongClick settings, then advanced mode “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: alan_s |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 20:15 #28483 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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" said:" said:" said:My experience is that even doing that is bit like trying to get 2 trains to join at Temple Meads. You sometimes need to try two or three times before it finally works.May well be doing something wrong, but every time I look for a line up at a certain TIPLOC, I have used Ken's example for Tallington all I ever get is no location found with that name, any pointers guys and girls as to where im going wrongClick settings, then advanced mode Works fine for me. If you give a bit more detail then I'll log it as a bug for the developer to look at. Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 21:19 #28484 | |
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Tallington
254 posts |
Here is a step by step guide:- On the Home Page is a black box along the middle - ignore it. Underneath it is an advanced search link - click on that. Then click on 'Location' on the top left of the next page. At the top right is a settings button - click on that and set advanced setting. Put CAPS LOCK on - it is easier to see spelling mistakes! Slowly type in either a 3 letter station code like KGX or a TIPLOC code like TALNGTN. Beware - The first 3 letters of TAL will show all stations with the letters 'tal' in NOT just the actual station TAL - Talsarnau Unfortunately there may be a delay while the system tries to find the TIPLOC when you type it into the box. Wait until it has found it and displayed it in a separate box alongside that you could select from, then fill in the other boxes. Persevere - it is well worth it! Extra search options have been suggested and are being worked on - a job in progress!! Ken Last edited: 31/01/2012 at 21:24 by Tallington Reason: corrected information Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 21:33 #28486 | |
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alan_s
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Whilst we're discussing the abbreviations, what does it mean on the main page after the headcode (VAR) (I assume WTT is working timetable) Alan Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 21:38 #28487 | |
headshot119
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VAR means variable schedule. STP is Short term path, and LTP is long term path.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: alan_s |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 21:43 #28488 | |
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alan_s
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Ah, thanks; so WTT are trains that always run, and the others may be temporary alterations for engineering works etc ? Alan Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 21:52 #28489 | |
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jc92
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" said:Ah, thanks; so WTT are trains that always run, and the others may be temporary alterations for engineering works etc ?WTT trains are permanent paths, however they might not run if theres nothing to convey! equally some WTT trains run to a Q path which indicates runs as required so again, possibly not. STP and VSTP trains are planned about a week (for STP) or less (VSTP) before they run, very common with coal workings. VAR usually indicates a variation on an existing WTT schedule, possiblty, sending it a different way, or loopping it somewhere etc "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: alan_s |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 31/01/2012 at 22:09 #28493 | |
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alan_s
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great thanks
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| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 01/02/2012 at 11:35 #28538 | |
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DriverCurran
688 posts |
Will give it two or three goes following Ken's step by step guide and see what happens. It may well be the fact that I am using the copy and paste that is throwing up the problem. Many thanks guys Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 01/02/2012 at 17:27 #28578 | |
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DriverCurran
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Finally got this sorted many thanks Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 01/02/2012 at 20:16 #28611 | |
Temple Meads
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Fantastic, this'll be really useful for me :) Cheers! Username TIM in multiplayer Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 02/02/2012 at 14:41 #28660 | |
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Tallington
254 posts |
As some have had a few problems with this fantastic website, I have created a simple user guide into cutting, pasting and formatting the available data into a spreadsheet that can then be printed for checking and further editing to create new timetables for SimSig. Unfortunately the data only goes back as far as the latest timetables for the whole network and errors may still be in there so grab as much data for the particular day you want while it exists! If there are any glaring errors in my guide, I apologise, and will update it if required - and add any positive points. Just noticed the formula at the end uses F2:Fxxx - it should be G2:Gxxx - unfortunately I am also human.. :dry: Ken [attachment=233]OTT-WTT-Guide.pdf[/attachment] Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 02/02/2012 at 16:51 by Tallington Reason: Update 2 Log in to reply |
| Re: Useful site for timetable creators 03/02/2012 at 16:57 #28752 | |
onlydjw
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It should be noted that there is (currently) very little VSTP showing on OTT because of when and how the data is sourced, although this should come in time 9not quite none, but not very much). There is also an issue with trains running over the day boundary showing on a line-up on the wrong day - ie SO 2330 Kings Cross-Leeds shows at Doncaster at 0115 on Saturday, rather than Sunday (note - I've made up the train to give a quick example). God bless, Daniel Wilson Log in to reply |