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| Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 09:45 #32750 | |
officer dibble
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Morning, Whilst checking my work messages via Tyrellcheck this morning, I noticed there has been major damage to points on the Heathrow Airport branch. There are some acronyms that I am unfamiliar with after 10 years of railway employment. I was wondering if anyone could help fill in the gaps and perhaps explain their purpose? Quote: Update from ARM. they are in process of setting up the reverse FPL and then will be contacting signaller to carry out SMTH testing for normal & reverse before handing back for 11:25.Whats an ARM (apart from a body part!), FPL and SMTH all about?  Thanks in advance. When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply |
| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 09:52 #32751 | |
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Danny252
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Bit worried that you don't know FPL after 10 years - Facing Point Lock! Not sure what SMTH testing is, but it's obviously technobabble for "Swing the points! Okay, swing them again. Yeah, think we're done here. Wait, what do you mean the whole panel just started blinking at you?"
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| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 09:58 #32752 | |
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officer dibble
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I am just platform staff Danny, so we dont really get taught these things in our rules.
When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply |
| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 10:00 #32753 | |
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John
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" said:Asset recovery manager I believe. SMTH Signal maintenance testing handbook? http://www.signet-solutions.com/courses/signalling-maintenance/smth-signal-maintenance-testing-handbook/ Last edited: 04/06/2012 at 10:07 by John Log in to reply The following user said thank you: officer dibble |
| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 10:26 #32755 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Asset Recovery Manager is correct - basically a railway manager who Control use as a single point of contact with everyone on the ground. SMTH is indeed the Signal Maintenance Testing Handbook. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: officer dibble |
| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 18:45 #32762 | |
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button_pusher
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ARM - Someone overviewing major failures. Rather than bothering the chaps on the ground for countless updates from every tom dick and harry, OMICs and MIMICs are appointed who liase with the appropriate staff (OMIC - Ops Manager in Charge; MIMIC - Maintenance Infrastructure Manager in Charge). This allows the ground staff to concentrate on the job in hand. FPL - Facing point lock. Lumps of metal that "interlock" to prevent points from moving under trains. Points fail to get detection if the FPL fails to engage. SMTH - Signal Maintenance Testing Handbook - The S&T Bible 2. (This first being the SMS - Signal Maintenance Specifications). The minimum checks/tests required when replacing/renewing and restoring S&T assets back to operational status. HTH. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: officer dibble |
| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 04/06/2012 at 22:36 #32768 | |
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JamesN
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8214pts (Down Airport - Up Airport Facing Crossover at Tunnel Jn) Run through during posession this morning, half hourly HX via Up Airport only, HC terminated at Hayes =)
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| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 05/06/2012 at 14:47 #32791 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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" said:ARM - Someone overviewing major failures. Rather than bothering the chaps on the ground for countless updates from every tom dick and harry, OMICs and MIMICs are appointed who liase with the appropriate staff (OMIC - Ops Manager in Charge; MIMIC - Maintenance Infrastructure Manager in Charge). This allows the ground staff to concentrate on the job in hand.Not totally relevant to the thread, but I found that the OMIC/MMIC theory doesn't necessarily work as well as it should! My experience suggests that these two individuals carry on about their normal business whilst performing the function, and merely add an extra layer of bureaucracy to the situation. For example, I remember being on a points failure at a major junction one day which was causing chaos, was working fine between myself as S&T Team Leader and the Signalman to sort out the fault. The fault was in a trackside location case, so there was no need to block the line, so I was taking "margins" between trains to narrow it down precisely. Someone then decided to appoint an OMIC and MMIC who only succeeded in both delaying more trains than required, and doubling the number of phone calls to both myself and the signaller as they needed to know what was going on, as well as control who sensed that they did not really know so were asking me anyway! We ended up with trains being held in the middle of nowhere to "create" margins that were never required in the first place, and suggestions as to the cause of the fault that were totally absurd, but had to be followed through to keep people happy. I have seen the system work well on major incidents where the OMIC is in the signal box and the MMIC on the track at the scene, but when they both remain office bound it is more trouble than it is worth. Log in to reply |
| Re: Calling any S&T or anyone else in the know...... 05/06/2012 at 15:28 #32802 | |
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button_pusher
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It seems to work for us, reduced phone calls from everyone wanting the same information. One phonecall every half hour updating one person who then updates everyone else. All depends on how it is implemented (usually by the on call L2 or whoevers in the office during the day) and whether or not they get involved in the faulting or the management of the fault. Log in to reply |