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0C31 to Temple Mills 10/05/2011 at 12:00 #3014
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Hi again, my run through the Nth London timetable is going great thanks to past help. Another little prob with loco 0C31 stuck at sig 1319. Can't get it from there round to Temple Mills whatever sig I try. My apologies to keep appearing with these little probs, but it's a case of once I find the answers I note them to save repeats, as was the case with Postal's help with the Kensal reversing problem. This has worked superbly since.
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0C31 to Temple Mills 10/05/2011 at 12:00 #15686
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Hi again, my run through the Nth London timetable is going great thanks to past help. Another little prob with loco 0C31 stuck at sig 1319. Can't get it from there round to Temple Mills whatever sig I try. My apologies to keep appearing with these little probs, but it's a case of once I find the answers I note them to save repeats, as was the case with Postal's help with the Kensal reversing problem. This has worked superbly since.
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0C31 to Temple Mills 10/05/2011 at 12:37 #15687
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The Timetable for 0C31 is incorrect.

I believe it just has a time at South Tottenham station where it is booked to reverse. This is incorrect.

The timetable should have a passing time at South Tottenham, a next location added called "South Tottenham (reverse)" which is at 1317 signal, and another passing time at South Tottenham to get it on its way.

This means the train will be routed from 320 to 1318 to 1316 so that 0C31 can get behind 1317, then routing from 1317 to the grey signal (can't find the number off hand) which is on the line towards Temple Mills.

Are you okay with timetable editing?

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0C31 to Temple Mills 10/05/2011 at 18:05 #15694
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Thanks for that mfcooper. Only been seriously into Simsig this last week and just trying to learn as I go with the help of the kind folks on here. Timetable editing at the moment has not entered my head, but am willing to try most things at least once(!).
(Edit). I've found a list of the timetable with a scrolling list of trains and times which gives options to sort by entry etc. I take it this is the timetable editor? It seems a straightforward matter to amend entries but first I'd need to know I was doing it right.

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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 10:40 #15717
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When a 'train' (in this case light loco) has already entered the sim the easiest way to edit the timetable is via the F2 screen. Right click on the train whose timetable you want to edit, Timetable options > edit timetable. Then using the location list tab select the (in this instance) South Tottenham line, and click "add below", choose the next location "South Tottenham (reverse)" and enter. Then do the same again for another South Tottenham entry, and tick the "passing time" box (so that it doesn't stop there unnecessarily). You could also change the original South Tottenham entry to 'passing time' (select it and click Edit).

I hope this makes sense - done from memory!

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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 11:03 #15719
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Thanks GoochyB for the detailed info. Do I need to specify any times in all this or am I just amending movements at locations? Sorry if I'm sounding stupid, but this will be my first venture into tt editing.
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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 12:10 #15725
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By and large, the easiest way to do it (and learn from it) is to try it yourself and see what happens. If you are picking up from a saved game, you can just reload if your changes don't work and have another try.

If your changes do work and you want to save them for posterity click on the Timetable menu and Save (with either the same name as you are running if you are not hooked on audit trails and the like or with a different name if you want keep the original for reference).

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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 12:17 #15726
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delticfan said:
Do I need to specify any times in all this

No, you can just leave it as the default 00:00

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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 13:52 #15732
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GoochyB said:
delticfan said:
Do I need to specify any times in all this

No, you can just leave it as the default 00:00
If the train already has timings it can be a good idea to put some in. The sim won't then think a train is x minutes past midnight late. (NB: it's fine if there are no timings in a Timetable at all). However, all that might happen is that your score may take a brief hit.

But who plays simSig for score, anyway? ;-)

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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 15:12 #15738
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If you do set non-00:00 times, it's useful to tick loco stops as set-down stops, this will allow the loco to depart early rather than wait for the booked time. (especially for RRs, will allow the RR to happen as soon as if freight has run early; Cl4 & 6-9 will run early, but Cl0, 1-2 & 5 won't).
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0C31 to Temple Mills 11/05/2011 at 19:47 #15756
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Thanks very much guys for all the recent replies and very useful info. I think I'm just going to go with it and experiment using all your excellent pointers. I can't break anything and will even learn something. From being unsure about the operation of Simsig a year ago I have become well and truly hooked. Thanks again.
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0C31 to Temple Mills 25/11/2012 at 14:47 #38094
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I have tried the above and can't get it to work.

I get a message "Path not found from South Tottenham (REV) to Tottenham South Junction.... ", with no alternative found. The train then sits at South Tottenham (REV) and won't move even when I give auhorisation to pass sig at danger.

The timetable NOW reads
South Tottenham 1:08 1:08
South Tottenham (REV) --:-- 1:10
Tottenham South JN --:-- 1:15

Where have I gone wrong?

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0C31 to Temple Mills 25/11/2012 at 18:09 #38104
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Looking at an old (paged) timetable with 0C31 in it (and several similar moves), there is a second "SOUTH TOTTENHAM" entry after the REV and before the Tottenham South Junction entry. Worth a try. I guess it's because SOUTH TOTTENHAM is a required timetable entry and 0C31 is moving from one side of it to the other after it reverses.

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0C31 to Temple Mills 25/11/2012 at 21:18 #38116
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That got it thanks
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